Did the Q judge the borg too?

[Kobayshi Maru]

In the Bible God is omniscient yet he tests and puts people on trial continuously.

Yeah? Probably not a good idea for me to begin commenting here on how much sense I think the Bible makes. I will say this though. The God tests generally aren't about determining an outcome, like a quiz. They're not court type trials. They' re tribulation kinds, where faith, loyalty, & honor, etc... are tested

We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons... and for one brief moment, you did.

The Q test was like a higher cognitive quiz, to see if we got what it takes. If they are all knowing, with a mastery of space & time such that they can literally watch the birth of humanity, then they would have full knowledge of our future too, which it seems they don't. He uses words like maybe or perhaps. To their knowledge, it's up in the air still, thus an ongoing trial to make sure we're OK to have out there evolving into something that might someday surpass them

I think Q's omniscience and omnipotence are perceived and not real. The way we would seem omnipotent to cavemen for example. Or like that idiot, who shot Picard with a bow and arrow, thought he was.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Perhaps this is just a shtick Q does mostly to entertain himself. We don't know that he hasn't done it to countless species across the universe since our in-Trek knowledge is limited to what we've been shown mostly in two corners of our own galaxy. For all we know, if the Kelvans had ever been asked about Q they might have been like, "oh, no - he's HERE, too?!"

Humanity just happens to be the species he took an interest in here, for whatever reason. And the "judgment" seemed to take the form of accusing the one on trial of whatever he/his people would find most ugly and then demanding proof that it isn't true. If he had done it to a Klingon captain instead, he would probably have accused all Klingons of being weak and cowardly and cited the biggest examples from their history of when that has been true, and made them prove their honor. (Kind of easy to see why he didn't choose them to mess with - that sounds pretty dull, really. )

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Perhaps this is just a shtick Q does mostly to entertain himself. We don't know that he hasn't done it to countless species across the universe since our in-Trek knowledge is limited to what we've been shown mostly in two corners of our own galaxy. For all we know, if the Kelvans had ever been asked about Q they might have been like, "oh, no - he's HERE, too?!"

Humanity just happens to be the species he took an interest in here, for whatever reason. And the "judgment" seemed to take the form of accusing the one on trial of whatever he/his people would find most ugly and then demanding proof that it isn't true. If he had done it to a Klingon captain instead, he would probably have accused all Klingons of being weak and cowardly and cited the biggest examples from their history of when that has been true, and made them prove their honor. (Kind of easy to see why he didn't choose them to mess with - that sounds pretty dull, really. )

It's true that the Klingons would much less be aggravated by an accusation of barbarism than one of cowardliness.


Although Q seems to know how to push Worf's buttons well enough.

 

[Mojochi]

I think Q's omniscience and omnipotence are perceived and not real.

That may well be too. They do seem to exist beyond corporeal form, in a kind of higher consciousness together, & they clearly have some mastery over space/time, dimension & the laws of physics. I'm not even sure wtf we were seeing in Tapestry. However, they certainly don't seem to know everything, & there's really no solid proof that they are all powerful, like could a Q stop the entire universe from expanding, reverse it, reset it, or unmake it altogether? I'm thinking no. That's omnipotent

Heck, I'm not even seeing any demonstrations that the Q even have telepathic qualities with the beings we've seen them interact with. Q shows no signs of knowing what Picard is thinking as he's thinking or saying it

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

I think Q's omniscience and omnipotence are perceived and not real.

That may well be too. They do seem to exist beyond corporeal form, in a kind of higher consciousness together, & they clearly have some mastery over space/time, dimension & the laws of physics. I'm not even sure wtf we were seeing in Tapestry. However, they certainly don't seem to know everything, & there's really no solid proof that they are all powerful, like could a Q stop the entire universe from expanding, reverse it, reset it, or unmake it altogether? I'm thinking no. That's omnipotent

Heck, I'm not even seeing any demonstrations that the Q even have telepathic qualities with the beings we've seen them interact with. Q shows no signs of knowing what Picard is thinking as he's thinking or saying it

It's possible that Q is under orders to behave that way, IE limit himself. It's certainly the case in True Q where we see him interacting with the other Q(s?)

 

[FormerLurker]

Things like Q wanting Janeway to carry his child lead me to wonder if the Q are watching us humans because one day far in the future we actually Become the Q. And they do things like tell Junior "Don't antagonize the Borg" to ensure their own destiny.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Things like Q wanting Janeway to carry his child lead me to wonder if the Q are watching us humans because one day far in the future we actually Become the Q. And they do things like tell Junior "Don't antagonize the Borg" to ensure their own destiny.

Or they are bored by eternity and use these little melodramas to amuse themselves, at our expense even.