Most species use the color of blood as terrifying imagery. You will quake with fear at the sight of their bloody salmon stained uniforms.
Did The Jihad live up to its potential?
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Most species use the color of blood as terrifying imagery. You will quake with fear at the sight of their bloody salmon stained uniforms.
Which suggests that Vulcans would use green lights and signs to indicate danger the way humans use red ones. If so, clueless humans on Vulcan (or vice-versa) could inadvertently cause serious problems. "Oh, the light is green, so I can go ahead!" (CRASSSHHH!!)
I actually have seen this suggested in other science fiction with green-blooded aliens (it's a pretty common trope in sci-fi*), and maybe even an older Trek novel or two, but I'm pretty sure that Trek production design onscreen has always had Vulcan equipment and ships using red for warning/alert lights the same as humans do, which has struck me as improbable.
*The green-alien trope goes back to the early stories and jokes about "little green men" in the 1940s, though the term "little green men" dates back centuries earlier to folklore of leprechauns, goblins, gremlins, etc. I'd imagine green is associated with such creatures either because they're nature spirits or because it gives them camouflage; maybe the myth began with people imagining they saw someone moving in the woods out of the corner of their eye when it was just the shaking of leaves. It's also just a very inhuman color.
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It was supposed to be gray, perhaps? Another unintentional pink thing like the tribbles and Kzinti ships?
As a kid, I had a sense this ep seemed to be going somewhere good, a bit of an epic feel the other cartoon ep's lacked. Now I don't see it. I think my own imagination was triggered by the idea of a huge holy war amongst aliens that would overwhelm us too. It was the backstory not the actual story.
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Now that I've been through Ringworld, for shame, Niven! Grafting your own universe onto Trek!
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Now that I've been through Ringworld, for shame, Niven! Grafting your own universe onto Trek!
Like I've said before, "The Slaver Weapon" isn't even a Star Trek episode. It's a Known Space episode with three Trek characters transplanted into the lead roles.
So, it's not canon, then? :LOL
Although I had seen "The Jihad" in first release (b/w in Australia!), I had only vague memories of how it all panned out. This "Composite of Aliens" cel from Tuttle & Bailey, as advertised in "Starlog" in the early 80s, confused my memory!
Filmation TAS Jihad by Ian McLean, on Flickr
Alas, Arex and M'Ress were not in the episode. Em/3/Green, Sord and Lara were great characters, though. Em/3/Green and Sord are miscoloured in this cel!
Loom Aleek-Om ("Yesteryear") was an Aurelian, but one of the TAS websites and the Rittenhouse anniversary trading cards identified Aurelians as being the same species as the Skorr.
TAS frames by Ian McLean, on Flickr
Filmation TAS Jihad by Ian McLean, on Flickr
Alas, Arex and M'Ress were not in the episode. Em/3/Green, Sord and Lara were great characters, though. Em/3/Green and Sord are miscoloured in this cel!
Loom Aleek-Om ("Yesteryear") was an Aurelian, but one of the TAS websites and the Rittenhouse anniversary trading cards identified Aurelians as being the same species as the Skorr.
TAS frames by Ian McLean, on Flickr
So is Tchar, who should be solid gold with a darker gold beak and blue eyes, not orange with yellow wings and a white ruff.
Does Spock have 6 fingers on that hand?Although I had seen "The Jihad" in first release (b/w in Australia!), I had only vague memories of how it all panned out. This "Composite of Aliens" cel from Tuttle & Bailey, as advertised in "Starlog" in the early 80s, confused my memory!
Filmation TAS Jihad by Ian McLean, on Flickr
Alas, Arex and M'Ress were not in the episode. Em/3/Green, Sord and Lara were great characters, though. Em/3/Green and Sord are miscoloured in this cel!
Loom Aleek-Om ("Yesteryear") was an Aurelian, but one of the TAS websites and the Rittenhouse anniversary trading cards identified Aurelians as being the same species as the Skorr.
TAS frames by Ian McLean, on Flickr
Yes. The person tracing the cel accidentally gave Spock six fingers. It's a known, infamous error.
Detail from Yesteryear cel by Ian McLean, on Flickr
Yep, and Aleek-Om in the "Yesteryear" cel is similarly miscoloured.
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Then again, Vulcans love their blues as much as every other species, as seen in all modern Trek. Making green signature or lighting contrast with the blue darkness of modern sets would be difficult; red or yellow attention lights make more sense there.
Did we ever get a glimpse of the interiors of ENT Vulcan ships that weren't utterly dead and blacked-out? In "Impulse", emergency lighting aboard the zombie ship is all blue, while most of the computer consoles are in blues and greens, especially on the things our heroes consider alarming.
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So, question, that I've always wanted to know the answer to:Yes. The person tracing the cel accidentally gave Spock six fingers. It's a known, infamous error.
Detail from Yesteryear cel by Ian McLean, on Flickr
Does the six-fingered Spock shown here occur in a deleted or dropped scene of "Yesteryear," or is this just a cel made as a collectible and not part of a scripted scene of the episode, or what?
I am sure I checked the episode at one point, which is when I also realised that the 21 frames made for the View-Master, "Mr. Spock's Time Trek", were all re-created for the reels!
In one of the episodes, someone's hand is outstretched and also points, and the animator inking those drawings for the Tuttle & Bailey cel seemingly used the one sketch showing both actions, superimposed, but inked both of them.
Remember, one of the other Tuttle & Bailey collectible cels have Spock taking a cast photo but, in another composite using the same elements, Spock is now crouched as part of the cast line-up. One of the exclusive Japanese "Starlog" collection has Arex and M'Ress posed with the kzinti Chuft-Captain.
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McCoy points at Spock when he doesn't recognize him at the very beginning.
http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x02/yesteryear017.jpg
http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=23&page=1
I don't believe there is any scene matching the six-fingered cel in the episode. If there is, can you give an approximate time code?
Yep. That's the scene I was thinking of. And I just flipped the Spock point, and it's quite similar. But not identical.
Nope. I was editing to make the comment less specific as you quoted it. I don't think Spock himself points. I think there is more pointing in "The Infinite Vulcan"?
Thank you. I'll keep an eye out for what the scene might be next time I do a TAS rewatch.
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