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Did the Equinox crew have the same experience as Voyager with the caretaker array (kidnapped etc)?

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They didn't destroy the array, so why didn't they use it to go home? I don't recall this point in particular being talked about in the two parter.
 
They were brought to the DQ so the Caretaker could find a mate, which means at least one member of the crew had a compatible cellular structure he could manipulate.

From "The Voyager Conspiracy":
SEVEN: In each instance, he would examine the crews' DNA, and when he failed to find a genetic match he would release the vessel. But in this instance, Neelix's sensors indicated the ship vanished. Obviously, it was returned to the Alpha Quadrant.

By the sounds of things he didn't send ships back from where he abducted them, so there could well be other ships from across the Alpha, Beta and Gamma Quadrants trying to get home.
 
They didn't destroy the array, so why didn't they use it to go home? I don't recall this point in particular being talked about in the two parter.
I think they may have just got out of there as quickly as they could. And they didn't take the exact same route as Voyager.
 
They didn't destroy the array, so why didn't they use it to go home? I don't recall this point in particular being talked about in the two parter.
IIRC, Neelix claimed the Caretaker sent the ships back when he was done with them. In my head canon, I assume he was sloppy about sending them back and in the Equinox's case, they just ended up somewhere else in the Delta Quadrant. This would account for why they never ran into the Kazon or Vidians or even the Borg, or why Voyager never ran into the aggressive and hostile races Captain Ransom described.
 
Basically, when Janeway lost one man to this overwhelmingly superior enemy, she grabbed the enemy by its withered transphasic throat and squeezed until she got her man back. When Ransom supposedly lost a man, woman or assorted BEM (or perhaps a dozen), he cut his losses and ran. No time for the Caretaker to take any action in this latter case, including trying to send Ransom back home.

Running from the Caretaker could take any number of directions and routes - a beeline towards Earth as an initial course doesn't appear necessary or likely. And the Kazon might not control all that much space, and wouldn't bother any non-Janeway intruder much anyway, so clearing their territory might be quickly done.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Given how obsessed the Kazon were with obtaining Starfleet technology, particularly transporters and replicators, it sure is funny to think there was a weaker Starfleet ship in their general neighbourhood for a year or so that avoided them completely.
 
Why and how did the Kazon locate Janeway and her ship?

Well, because Seska. Basically exclusively. (Although "Initiations" has one of Janeway's men engage in a frivolity unlikely to be part of Ransom's itinerary, and pay the price.)

Without Seska, Ransom ought to be fine.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Hmh? The Kazon were squatting next to the array, waiting for it to go down so that they could eat fresh Ocampa. Them spotting Janeway's ship was inevitable; spotting Ransom's, likewise. (Unless Ransom got processed before the Caretaker began showing signs of senility and got the Kazon excited. But the timeline doesn't appear to allow for that.)

Timo Saloniemi
 
Well i think it seems likely that they kept an eye on the array. They knew it was supplying power to the Ocompa planet which they knew was a source of water. And they've probably witnessed the array bringing in ships just as Neelix had.
 
They were brought to the DQ so the Caretaker could find a mate, which means at least one member of the crew had a compatible cellular structure he could manipulate.

From "The Voyager Conspiracy":
SEVEN: In each instance, he would examine the crews' DNA, and when he failed to find a genetic match he would release the vessel. But in this instance, Neelix's sensors indicated the ship vanished. Obviously, it was returned to the Alpha Quadrant.

By the sounds of things he didn't send ships back from where he abducted them, so there could well be other ships from across the Alpha, Beta and Gamma Quadrants trying to get home.

Yes! Among them the Maquis ship in my story "Coming Home" which can be found on the Kes Website. :techman:

As for the Equinox, I guess that they were all released after an examination and they realized that they couldn't take over or conquer the array in any way. Plus the fact that the Kazon might have attacked them and they realized that they had nothing to do than get out of there as soon as possible.
 
The Equinox arrived shortly before Voyager. Likely before he was sending ships back, but as he got weaker he stopped sending then back
 
Maybe Ransom did find that wormhole VERY early in his voyage home. That's the only reason he could have gotten his ship as far as he did before encountering the Ankari, and in turn those subspace creatures. The Ankari were only 50 light years away in "EQUINOX, PART II", so Ransom couldn't have gotten far with his experiments.
 
They also ran into a species that Ransom mentioned to Janeway that Voyager didn't encounter. Something that sounded like Krontonin Guard. Does anyone recall that? Which makes me think, as I said before, they didn't take the exact same route as Voyager.
 
They also ran into a species that Ransom mentioned to Janeway that Voyager didn't encounter. Something that sounded like Krontonin Guard. Does anyone recall that? Which makes me think, as I said before, they didn't take the exact same route as Voyager.

RANSOM: Have you ever run into the Krowtonan Guard?
JANEWAY: Never heard of them.
RANSOM: That's how we spent our first week in the Delta Quadrant. They claimed we violated their territory. I gave the order to keep going. I lost thirty nine. Half my crew.
JANEWAY: I'm sorry.
RANSOM: We never recovered from that loss. It changed everything.
JANEWAY: What do you mean?
RANSOM: When I first realised that we'd be travelling across the Delta Quadrant for the rest of our lives, I told my crew that we had a duty as Starfleet officers to expand our knowledge and uphold our principles. After a couple of years, we started to forget that we were explorers. And there were times when we nearly forgot that we were human beings.
JANEWAY: This is a Nova class science vessel, designed for short term research missions. Minimal weapons. It can't even go faster than warp eight. Frankly, I don't know how you've done it. You've obviously travelled as far as we have with much fewer resources.
RANSOM: I wish that I could take all the credit, but we stumbled across a wormhole, and made a few enhancements on our warp engines.
 
Let us not forget that the original idea was that the Equinox had encountered Species 8472 and failed miserably!
JB
 
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