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Did Starfleet have a facility on Vulcan?

Didn't T'Pol say something to the effect that Vulcans weren't natural explorers, and they generally lacked curiosity?
That's why they had colonies called P'Jem, Vulcanis Lunar and the planet they fought the Andorians over...yeah right, definitely homebodies. They might not be 'natural explorers', but they explored.
 
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^ The last great Vulcan war (which culminated in the Romulan diaspora) probably destroyed much of Vulcan's technology and infrastructure. Soval said it took them a thousand years to recover.
Still gives them another 1000 years to get their shit together if they wanted to. Surak is meant to have lived in Earth's first century, more than 2000 Earth years from the 22nd century.
 
That's why they had colonies called P'Jem, Vulcanis Lunar and the planet they fought the Andorians over...yeah right, definitely homebodies. They might not be 'natural explorers', but they explored.
They just couldn't do it very fast because they didn't have warp drive until Zephram Cochrane of Alpha Centauri discovered the Space Warp.

<== TOS guy.
 
They tried the whole exploration thing, but with no emotions, it became rather boring. So they quit doing it.

They eventually learned that humans would do all the exploring for them... It's more logical that way.
 
They tried the whole exploration thing, but with no emotions, it became rather boring. So they quit doing it.

They eventually learned that humans would do all the exploring for them... It's more logical that way.
Isn't that the guys from Ringworld?
 
Not sure about that latter thing. Vulcans moved a piece of their culture to P'Jem. They may have had zero interest in what P'Jem in turn had to offer to them.

The Vulcanian Star Empire in ENT had definite offworld interests. None of these need involve exploration, though. That Vulcans are homebodies is not in dispute, not with just 10,000 of them surviving the loss of the homeworld, even if TOS recognizes the concept of the Vulcan merchant and TNG/DS9 the concept of the non-Starfleet Vulcan survey ship. And lack of interest in exploring would cover much of that, including the ENT power games. But it doesn't explain the Vulcan survey ship concept (see "Vortex" for an example of the disconnect with Starfleet there). Unless it's just an euphemism for spying for fundamentally military purposes, as in ENT.

As for the Vulcanis Lunar colony, this might well be on Luna - an early embassy-ghetto for the aliens before they were accepted down on Terra firma, or then an extension of the Embassy for those who cannot tolerate the stench of humans.

Timo Saloniemi
 
That Vulcans are homebodies is not in dispute, not with just 10,000 of them surviving the loss of the homeworld,

Yes that line written by folks who really didn't know the Star Trek universe. Oh well its done now.
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Before ENT and FC and even most of TNG Diane Duane made the same claim.
What! They claimed only 10,000 Vulcans survived Nero?

Based on what we see in the franchise the humans were not exactly populating the rest of the galaxy either. The population of the human colonies shown, well I see more people in my staff canteen everyday.
 
It's obviously a line that Star Trek rather desperately needs in order to justify how Spock is a mystery to the audienc... to his colleagues. It's a good thing it was there from the get-go, then.

Timo Saloniemi
 
It's obviously a line that Star Trek rather desperately needs in order to justify how Spock is a mystery to the audienc... to his colleagues. It's a good thing it was there from the get-go, then.
Timo Saloniemi
Now you have lost me. People can be a 'mystery to their colleagues' without it having to do with their planetary origin or racial group.
 
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