Given the verbal company it was keeping, I think the Fundamental Declarations of the Martian colonies was about civil or legal rights, and not a declaration of independences.
And it might have been ancient news, with Mars losing whatever made it special soon thereafter (as the good spread around, supposedly).
The nations composing the UN have their own forces. And In America, half of the states have state militias.
It's the old argument of whether the UFP is the UN or the US, I guess. But US militias aren't allowed to have independent agendas of any sort, and isn't the very point that these can be summoned to the national cause in times of need? (Also, as regards a key point of Trek interest, which militias operate "alien" gear?)
There ia similar lack of evidence making Starfleet the only fleet organizaton within the Federation.
How so? Every appearance reinforces that claim. It's the default assumption until challenged by evidence. Or should be assume by default that there are many
Tenacities posting here even though just one actually is observed posting? (And if all of your extended family posts through your alias, it's still just one
Tenacity, and we're back to difference that is no difference.)
When on other occasions have we heard this particular terminology used to refer to Starfleet starships?
Jupiter and Mars also had defenses responding to the Borg. Might have been local, might have been more far-reaching; nothing suggests they weren't Starfleet.
The Starfleet starships protecting Betazed during the Dominion war were referred to as "the tenth fleet," not "the Betazed defense vessels".
Which is a great thing, as apparently they weren't all that interested in defending Betazed...
And what happen to the Sovereign class, if we didn't see them that surely mean they didn't exist, right?
You realize that this argument would mean that the putative "local" forces would have between them perhaps two starships total. If they are statistically as insignificant as the
Sovereign class, why bother having them?
But wasn't "brainwashing" solely for civilians?
Obviously not, as it was tried on Garth, too. That is, he didn't get a "life sentence", he was declared "incurable".
Starfleet had the crime of visiting Talos Four carrying the possibility of the death sentence.
Yes. And Starfleet has other Starfleet-specific punishments such as stripping of rank, or detention, or work detail, or even basic hazing. Doesn't mean a Starfleet officer guilty of murder or theft would avoid civilian brainwashing: career consequences would just come on top of that.
And in the second episode of Discovery [spoiler alert] a Starfleet trial gave Burnham a life sentence in prison.
And brainwashing was a new thing ten years later: Dr. Adams had been at it for twenty years at that point, and most of our TOS heroes still weren't convinced. By the time of "Whom Gods Destroy", they were.
Admiral Whatlet: " ...the Bajoran militia has to be absorbed into Starfleet ..." One of the definitions of absorb is "intensely engaged."
Hardly works with "into", though.
Starfleet was going to intensely engage the Bajor militia.
And when militaries engage, they intent to destroy.
Timo Saloniemi
