Did Star Trek come out on Full-Screen or just Widescreen?
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My last TV was a 32 inch Toshiba. Standard definition, 4:3 screen. Not LCD, not flat screen. Just a standard TV.
I bought ALL my movies in widescreen. I "lived with" the "black bars." Because I knew that a movie shot in widescreen should be viewed in widescreen.
If full-frame, aka fool frame, is dead, then cheers for that!
Movies are rectangles. Standard TVs are square. You can't make a rectangle fill a square without blowing it up and chopping off the sides. And many times then they'll have to have the camera "pan" around the screen to try to keep what is relevant within view. It can make one sick. Or you can get cases where a character is talking to someone you can't see because they got chopped off on the side.
I got rid of my TV after I got married. My wife had a widescreen LCD. If I had bought my movies in fool frame, I'd be screwed right now - and have wasted a lot of money.
P.S. It's "ridiculous," not "rediculous."
P.S.S. Did Star Trek XI come out on VHS?
Someone had to ask.
I bought ALL my movies in widescreen. I "lived with" the "black bars." Because I knew that a movie shot in widescreen should be viewed in widescreen.
If full-frame, aka fool frame, is dead, then cheers for that!
Movies are rectangles. Standard TVs are square. You can't make a rectangle fill a square without blowing it up and chopping off the sides. And many times then they'll have to have the camera "pan" around the screen to try to keep what is relevant within view. It can make one sick. Or you can get cases where a character is talking to someone you can't see because they got chopped off on the side.
I got rid of my TV after I got married. My wife had a widescreen LCD. If I had bought my movies in fool frame, I'd be screwed right now - and have wasted a lot of money.
P.S. It's "ridiculous," not "rediculous."
P.S.S. Did Star Trek XI come out on VHS?
Someone had to ask.
I remember a time when you had to get Laser discs to get widescreen movies with commentary tracks. You had to be some gol-darned cinephile.
Call me Gramps.
If you plan on getting a bigger TV in the future then why not start future proofing now? If you end up getting a widescreen TV all of your fullscreen pan and scanned movies are going to look horrible on it.
But probably 100% of those still have regular, old sets around, too -- in the kids' rooms or the sitting room upstairs; we do. Like M'Sharak said, though, widescreen's best viewed letterbox on those.
make sure progressive scan is on.
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You just miss so much when you watch Fullscreen. And everything is distorted. You're lucky to see anyone above the eyebrows.
You just miss so much when you watch Fullscreen. And everything is distorted. You're lucky to see anyone above the eyebrows.
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
My last TV was a 32 inch Toshiba. Standard definition, 4:3 screen. Not LCD, not flat screen. Just a standard TV.
I bought ALL my movies in widescreen. I "lived with" the "black bars." Because I knew that a movie shot in widescreen should be viewed in widescreen.
If full-frame, aka fool frame, is dead, then cheers for that!
Movies are rectangles. Standard TVs are square. You can't make a rectangle fill a square without blowing it up and chopping off the sides. And many times then they'll have to have the camera "pan" around the screen to try to keep what is relevant within view. It can make one sick. Or you can get cases where a character is talking to someone you can't see because they got chopped off on the side.
I got rid of my TV after I got married. My wife had a widescreen LCD. If I had bought my movies in fool frame, I'd be screwed right now - and have wasted a lot of money.
P.S. It's "ridiculous," not "rediculous."
P.S.S. Did Star Trek XI come out on VHS?
Did LG make a Transporter for your home?
I still have a regular 4:3 plain TV - And I wouldn't think of watching full-screen if it wasn't the original aspect ratio. All DVD's I have purchased have been widescreen for many years now.
I have a 33 inch 4:3 tube (Standard Def. Yes, I know. Finances.) and I always, ALWAYS get the Widescreen presentation, and aim for the ORIGINAL Aspect Ratio when purchasing DVDs.
The "Black Bars" are never distracting to me. They are simply a non-picture area, and that's it.
In fact, since I have TOS Original and Remastered on DVD, even if I went to Blu, I might not get the Blu-Ray version of TOS, since it was designed for Standard Def, 4:3 presentation.
I already have a Blu-Ray version of the movie (the one with the 4 badges) ready for when I go High-Def, and the DVD (in the Enterprise Saucer) to tide me over until then. Simply put, I want my movies to be as close to the Director's intended presentation of the movie. If it was 4:3? I want it in 4:3. If it was created at 1:85:1 or 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 (which I've seen on occasion), I want it in that format.
The "Black Bars" are never distracting to me. They are simply a non-picture area, and that's it.
In fact, since I have TOS Original and Remastered on DVD, even if I went to Blu, I might not get the Blu-Ray version of TOS, since it was designed for Standard Def, 4:3 presentation.
I already have a Blu-Ray version of the movie (the one with the 4 badges) ready for when I go High-Def, and the DVD (in the Enterprise Saucer) to tide me over until then. Simply put, I want my movies to be as close to the Director's intended presentation of the movie. If it was 4:3? I want it in 4:3. If it was created at 1:85:1 or 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 (which I've seen on occasion), I want it in that format.
Don't get me wrong, it's no skin off my nose if John Luddite wants to watch Star Trek on betamax, or a B&W tube TV. But the fullscreen vs widescreen "debate" really should be long dead and settled, it's been over a decade.
Not everyone has large amounts of disposable income yet. For them the debate of how to spend what they have is valid and ongoing.
Those who have to have the latest thing the day it comes out... not so much. Then again, as soon as the next new thing comes out they are chasing that, so it is an ongoing chase with no end. IMO (I have a brother in this category), it is too exhausting to constantly try to 'keep up with the Jones'.
LOL, 33? I only have a 27"!...
But I'm in no hurry - When it breaks, I'll get a HD flatscreen. They should be even cheaper by then.
Oh, the age old Full Screen/Widescreen debate. I work at Wal-Mart in the electronics department. You won't believe how many times a day I go through this conversation with customers. The problem is they called it FULL SCREEN.
That's a lie the move company has been feeding consumers for a decade. The correct term is Pan and Scan. That label should be on all non widescreen films. When all Blue Ray movies are the correct aspect ratio, people always complain that they aren't Full Screen. Imagine Full Screen Blue Rays!
Star Trek would look awful in Full Screen. Imagine the Kelvin battle with 30 percent of the picture cropped?
That's a lie the move company has been feeding consumers for a decade. The correct term is Pan and Scan. That label should be on all non widescreen films. When all Blue Ray movies are the correct aspect ratio, people always complain that they aren't Full Screen. Imagine Full Screen Blue Rays!
Star Trek would look awful in Full Screen. Imagine the Kelvin battle with 30 percent of the picture cropped?
Some times, yes. But not all of those DVDs were in fact panned & scanned. Some widescreen films were actually shot 'flat' (i.e. in 4:3) and the top and bottom were masked off for widescreen use. The widescreen portion of the image was the only 'real' part of the film; the extra bits on the top and bottom were never meant to be seen, and sometimes will contain extra stuff like boom mics. This would only be seen in the so-called 'full screen' version. Stanley Kubrick, for example, used to do that a lot. I think 2001 was one of the few of his films that *wasn't* shot "flat" (i.e. it was filmed in real widescreen from the get-go).
But not all films were shot that way. I don't know if any still are.
Hi all, I was just wondering if the latest film came out on full-screen format or was it just widescreen. I don't have an HD TV yet, and the widescreen format they used makes it kind of hard to watch things on my TV. I've checked various stores, and it seems to be just in widescreen. I even asked an employee at Barnes & Nobles, and that's all they had, too.
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Expecting it to come out on fullscreen is insanity, its an obsolete practice. If you really want to ruin the picture, you can set a MODERN TV to change the aspect ratio fill the screen, but again, that would be insanity.
RAMA
Answering the already-answered question, now with 30% more smug and added condescension? Check.Hi all, I was just wondering if the latest film came out on full-screen format or was it just widescreen. I don't have an HD TV yet, and the widescreen format they used makes it kind of hard to watch things on my TV. I've checked various stores, and it seems to be just in widescreen. I even asked an employee at Barnes & Nobles, and that's all they had, too.
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Expecting it to come out on fullscreen is insanity, its an obsolete practice. If you really want to ruin the picture, you can set a MODERN TV to change the aspect ratio fill the screen, but again, that would be insanity.
Knew we could count on you, RAMA.
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