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Did Spock's actions kill... [Spoilers]?

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Thanks! Welcome to the board to you too.
Look, buddy, the other examples I used weren't off topic. They were relevant to showing how last minute events are unpredictable.

Let me use a more generic example.

Let's say that you are standing at the edge of a roof on top of a skyscraper. The police call your mom . They say, "Mam, you better come out here, your son looks like he is going to jump off a building." Your mom is at work. She jumps up and starts running out the door. On the way out, a coworker asks her what's wrong. She pauses just to say, "Paul's in trouble, gotta go." Then she makes a B-Line to the skyscraper where you are standing. You yell to the cops on the roof, "I just want to see my mom... Then I'll be OK." Your mom arrives and starts coming up the elevator as fast as she can. The cops on the roof tell you she's there, but you're like, "No! You're lying!" Just as your mom is about to open the door to the rooftop, you give up and jump. SPLAAAAT!

By your logic, your mom killed you, while in actuality, it's your own damn fault, buddy. :rolleyes:

It's obvious you like to get a rise out of people. And I guess I'm as guilty as Dale, Jeri, or anyone else of feeding your desire to argue here. But I think you might notice that even the people who don't like the film, and there are a few, act like mature adults about it. They don't create mean-spirited posts just to stir up trouble. :vulcan:

Anyhow, most people come on message boards to make friends, not to make people tear their hair out in frustration. It's just a thought... :techman:
That's a totally different situation and has no relevance to Spock killing Amanda.
 
Re: Spock killed his mother

Spock's breakfast is irrelevant. Any dillydallying he did once he knew the situation on/in Vulcan is relevant.

Let's take it a step further. If Olson had stuck his landing on the drill, the thing would've been blown up and the drilling could've been stopped in time to prevent the red matter from being inserted.

Blame Olson, I say. IT'S ALL OLSON'S FAULT! (Best yet, he's not around to defend himself.)

Welcome to the land of proximate cause! Palsgraf v. Long Island Railroad Co.

I always hated the logic of that decision.
 
Come on... seriously, are we going to really pick this nit?

It's called dramatic license. It's classic story telling... someone ALWAYS tries to stop one of our protagonists from rushing headlong into danger.
 
Thanks! Welcome to the board to you too.
Look, buddy, the other examples I used weren't off topic. They were relevant to showing how last minute events are unpredictable.

Let me use a more generic example.

Let's say that you are standing at the edge of a roof on top of a skyscraper. The police call your mom . They say, "Mam, you better come out here, your son looks like he is going to jump off a building." Your mom is at work. She jumps up and starts running out the door. On the way out, a coworker asks her what's wrong. She pauses just to say, "Paul's in trouble, gotta go." Then she makes a B-Line to the skyscraper where you are standing. You yell to the cops on the roof, "I just want to see my mom... Then I'll be OK." Your mom arrives and starts coming up the elevator as fast as she can. The cops on the roof tell you she's there, but you're like, "No! You're lying!" Just as your mom is about to open the door to the rooftop, you give up and jump. SPLAAAAT!

By your logic, your mom killed you, while in actuality, it's your own damn fault, buddy. :rolleyes:

It's obvious you like to get a rise out of people. And I guess I'm as guilty as Dale, Jeri, or anyone else of feeding your desire to argue here. But I think you might notice that even the people who don't like the film, and there are a few, act like mature adults about it. They don't create mean-spirited posts just to stir up trouble. :vulcan:

Anyhow, most people come on message boards to make friends, not to make people tear their hair out in frustration. It's just a thought... :techman:
That's a totally different situation and has no relevance to Spock killing Amanda.

Why? Because you say so? Break it down for me, man. I'm not as smart as you. Explain how the logic is not analogous. By the way, read that Palsgraff v. LIRR opinion while you're at it. Do you agree or disagree with Justice Cardozo's opinion? I really want to know.

Also, I want to know, if you paused to tell someone you were on your way to save someone's life and you failed, would you turn yourself in for manslaughter?
 
i don't think spock's actions killed. he saved, just couldn't save his mom from a random happening.
 
Look, buddy, the other examples I used weren't off topic. They were relevant to showing how last minute events are unpredictable.

Let me use a more generic example.

Let's say that you are standing at the edge of a roof on top of a skyscraper. The police call your mom . They say, "Mam, you better come out here, your son looks like he is going to jump off a building." Your mom is at work. She jumps up and starts running out the door. On the way out, a coworker asks her what's wrong. She pauses just to say, "Paul's in trouble, gotta go." Then she makes a B-Line to the skyscraper where you are standing. You yell to the cops on the roof, "I just want to see my mom... Then I'll be OK." Your mom arrives and starts coming up the elevator as fast as she can. The cops on the roof tell you she's there, but you're like, "No! You're lying!" Just as your mom is about to open the door to the rooftop, you give up and jump. SPLAAAAT!

By your logic, your mom killed you, while in actuality, it's your own damn fault, buddy. :rolleyes:

It's obvious you like to get a rise out of people. And I guess I'm as guilty as Dale, Jeri, or anyone else of feeding your desire to argue here. But I think you might notice that even the people who don't like the film, and there are a few, act like mature adults about it. They don't create mean-spirited posts just to stir up trouble. :vulcan:

Anyhow, most people come on message boards to make friends, not to make people tear their hair out in frustration. It's just a thought... :techman:
That's a totally different situation and has no relevance to Spock killing Amanda.

Why? Because you say so? Break it down for me, man. I'm not as smart as you. Explain how the logic is not analogous. By the way, read that Palsgraff v. LIRR opinion while you're at it. Do you agree or disagree with Justice Cardozo's opinion? I really want to know.

Also, I want to know, if you paused to tell someone you were on your way to save someone's life and you failed, would you turn yourself in for manslaughter?

Ya know....if I end up having to read legal decisions in order to moderate you two, I'm gonna be crabby.

Either that, or I'll have to draft Cogley into modhood, whether he likes it or not.

And I think we can all agree that THAT would be a scary prospect, at best. :p
 
That's a totally different situation and has no relevance to Spock killing Amanda.

Why? Because you say so? Break it down for me, man. I'm not as smart as you. Explain how the logic is not analogous. By the way, read that Palsgraff v. LIRR opinion while you're at it. Do you agree or disagree with Justice Cardozo's opinion? I really want to know.

Also, I want to know, if you paused to tell someone you were on your way to save someone's life and you failed, would you turn yourself in for manslaughter?

Ya know....if I end up having to read legal decisions in order to moderate you two, I'm gonna be crabby.

Either that, or I'll have to draft Cogley into modhood, whether he likes it or not.

And I think we can all agree that THAT would be a scary prospect, at best. :p

DRAFT COGLEY! :devil:
 
Why? Because you say so? Break it down for me, man. I'm not as smart as you. Explain how the logic is not analogous. By the way, read that Palsgraff v. LIRR opinion while you're at it. Do you agree or disagree with Justice Cardozo's opinion? I really want to know.

Also, I want to know, if you paused to tell someone you were on your way to save someone's life and you failed, would you turn yourself in for manslaughter?

Ya know....if I end up having to read legal decisions in order to moderate you two, I'm gonna be crabby.

Either that, or I'll have to draft Cogley into modhood, whether he likes it or not.

And I think we can all agree that THAT would be a scary prospect, at best. :p

DRAFT COGLEY! :devil:

Okay...that's one vote under the "Living Dangerously" column. :lol:
 
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