Did Ransom know about Voyager?

[nx1701g]

I was thinking about this earlier in the week while watching Season 2 on Spike. Several of the planets that Voyager visit mention that it is viewed as a ship of destruction and that its rather infamous within the Delta Quadrant because of the damage it has done to the region.

My question is did Ransom or any of his crew hear about Voyager? Equinox in the beginning didn't have the enhanced warp drive and were said to be able to travel at a maximum speed of Warp 8. They were smaller so they would have to take on supplies more often than Voyager would. Do you think they heard about Voyager in any of their encounters? Is it possible that they knew Voyager was out there?

 

[Lynx]

No, I don't think that.

Ransom's crew must have been transported to the delta Quadrant before Voyager because the Caretaker was still alive then. The Equinox was also smaller and slower than Voyager so it must have been several months ahead because it actually took some time before Voyager did catch up with them.

As they were ahead of Voyager and reached certain planets before Voyager did arrive there, Ransom's crew can' have been aware of another ship being transported to the Delta Quadrant.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Janeway blamed that on Kazon lies in Dreadnaught if that's what you're talking about, and since Janeway had never heard of the krotonan Guard who killed half of Ransoms crew in his first "mission" it seems that they plotted incredibly different routes.

Since Equinox is smaller it had to plot more rest stops between convenient planets meanwhile Voyager could ignore entires reams of Systems before they need to resupply.

I'm thinking that if Ransom was half the in your face ass that Janeway was, flacking the competency to actually send ransom home, Banjoman just flung Equinox away to create a comfort zone from the preaching of Starfleetousity...

OR!

Ransom legged it before the experimenting could be done proper which is why Caretaker had to get more humans to rape. And again because their first course away from danger was not entirely their choice, it would have taken a while to match up with an optimal plot Like Voyager was using, depending on when they found that worm hole ransom mentioned.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Did the Caretaker not ever send ships back to their points of origin after it was done with their crews? If it did, why didn't it do this with Equinox?

 

[Lynx]

I'm not sure if he dd send ships back to their origin. What I could see, he had no plans to do that with Voyager. "Sending you back is so complicated", he said.

Or maybe he did that with some previous ships he had abducted but couldn't do it with Voyager because he was tired and close to death.

As for Equinox, maybe they simply started to run away when they were brought to the array and the Caretaker had no chance to abduct them or send them back. Or the Kazon may have attacked them and chased them away before the Caretaker could abduct the crewmembers, who knows.

 

[anais]

I like to think that the reason Voyager and Equinox never crossed paths was Neelix. His guidance of Voyager thru the early years may have put Voyager on a less obvious course back, a trajectory that only converged with Equinox's once the distance to Earth got significantly smaller. All roads lead to Rome.

 

[Guy Gardener]

And Neelix said that Voyagers story about the Caretaker was common enough in this region.

What about the two Cardassian ships hanging around in the pilot?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

And Neelix said that Voyagers story about the Caretaker was common enough in this region.

What about the two Cardassian ships hanging around in the pilot?

AFAIK, there was only one. The Vetar (Gul Evek's ship) was hit by energy bursts in the Badlands, but there's no reason to suspect anything else (the caretaker would probably not bother with a ship that badly damaged) happened to it.

There is a Cardassian ship of the same class that was mentioned in "The Voyager Conspiracy" but this is probably not the Vetar, as it doesn't have any of the damage.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I know there's no information, and those are the two ships I was talking about, and considering Maje Seska didn't make contact with them (if one of those vessels wasn't a paranoid delusion from the Borgette.) that we know of since they'd cock block her control of the Kazon since it was unlikely she was a very high ranking whatever in the whatever she belonged to be it soldier or spy... So from the Gut, do you think they were pushed home by the Caretaker or Took a third and fourth optimal and efficient route home which didn't intersect with Ransom or Janeway?

Of course, Evek's ship might not have made it to the Array. Sisko had to tow some Cardassian ships back from the other side of the galaxy the last time they took a wrong turn because their ships are so rickety. So if that classification of vessel, CGI stock can't even make it through the Bajoran wormhole without half it's systems blowing out?

 

[DanCPA]

I doubt Ransom knew about Voyager. If he did, wouldn't it had made sense to try to find a bigger and better ally?

 

[exodus]

I doubt Ransom knew about Voyager. If he did, wouldn't it had made sense to try to find a bigger and better ally?

Exactly.

The Kazon, The Voth & Hirogen have all been able to track Voyager. The Equinox could have too if they knew of them.

 

[Lynx]

I know there's no information, and those are the two ships I was talking about, and considering Maje Seska didn't make contact with them (if one of those vessels wasn't a paranoid delusion from the Borgette.) that we know of since they'd cock block her control of the Kazon since it was unlikely she was a very high ranking whatever in the whatever she belonged to be it soldier or spy... So from the Gut, do you think they were pushed home by the Caretaker or Took a third and fourth optimal and efficient route home which didn't intersect with Ransom or Janeway?

Of course, Evek's ship might not have made it to the Array. Sisko had to tow some Cardassian ships back from the other side of the galaxy the last time they took a wrong turn because their ships are so rickety. So if that classification of vessel, CGI stock can't even make it through the Bajoran wormhole without half it's systems blowing out?

I don't think any of the Cardassian ships were transported to the Delta Quadrant. Gul Evek's ship was damaged in the plasmastorm in which Chakotay's ship got away and didn't continue hunting the Maquis ship. Therefore it wasn't transported to the Delta Quadrant.

The other Cardassian ship didn't follow Chakotay's ship into the plasma storm, what I could see.

 

[exodus]

I know there's no information, and those are the two ships I was talking about, and considering Maje Seska didn't make contact with them (if one of those vessels wasn't a paranoid delusion from the Borgette.) that we know of since they'd cock block her control of the Kazon since it was unlikely she was a very high ranking whatever in the whatever she belonged to be it soldier or spy... So from the Gut, do you think they were pushed home by the Caretaker or Took a third and fourth optimal and efficient route home which didn't intersect with Ransom or Janeway?

Of course, Evek's ship might not have made it to the Array. Sisko had to tow some Cardassian ships back from the other side of the galaxy the last time they took a wrong turn because their ships are so rickety. So if that classification of vessel, CGI stock can't even make it through the Bajoran wormhole without half it's systems blowing out?

I don't think any of the Cardassian ships were transported to the Delta Quadrant. Gul Evek's ship was damaged in the plasmastorm in which Chakotay's ship got away and didn't continue hunting the Maquis ship. Therefore it wasn't transported to the Delta Quadrant.

The other Cardassian ship didn't follow Chakotay's ship into the plasma storm, what I could see.

It was revealed in "Voyager Conspiracy" that a Cardassian warship was also pulled into the Delta Quaderant by the Caretaker.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It "might have" been revealed there was another Cardassian ship. Misplacing this element rather than having it figure into subsequent episodes and even the final episodes has always been a sore point for me...

Once Ransom started mutilating and hunting those beasties, he would have been too ashamed to make contact with another Starfleet Captain even if he did know about her or bump into one of the many thousand quicksilver duplicates making their way towards earthspace... I imagine if he'd had the opportunity to dupe, ditch or murder Janeway before hand that he wouldn't have been so pathetic in getting mastery over the situation at hand that in all at the end of the day those creatures wouldn't have massacred billions from one side of Federation Space to the other?

You'd have to wonder if ransoms crew wasn't exclusively Human, could he have subverted the morality of everyone else under his command so completely? Or had he been forced to maroon crew who wouldn't play along with the new callous regime?

 

[kimc]

It was revealed in "Voyager Conspiracy" that a Cardassian warship was also pulled into the Delta Quaderant by the Caretaker.

I'm not sure I believe anything that was "revealed" in "Voyager Conspiracy". Seven was pretty messed up at the time she was revealing all the "plots".

 

[DanCPA]

It was revealed in "Voyager Conspiracy" that a Cardassian warship was also pulled into the Delta Quaderant by the Caretaker.

I'm not sure I believe anything that was "revealed" in "Voyager Conspiracy". Seven was pretty messed up at the time she was revealing all the "plots".

I believe the facts were right, just her conclusions from them were wrong

 

[kimc]

It was revealed in "Voyager Conspiracy" that a Cardassian warship was also pulled into the Delta Quaderant by the Caretaker.

I'm not sure I believe anything that was "revealed" in "Voyager Conspiracy". Seven was pretty messed up at the time she was revealing all the "plots".

I believe the facts were right, just her conclusions from them were wrong

Perhaps...

BTW, love the sig.

 

[Immolatus]

I believe if Ransom knew he would have made an effort to try to contact Voyager. He was alone with a dying ship and crew. I would have made the effort, I think the crew would have demanded he make the effort

 

[DanCPA]

BTW, love the sig.

Shh... I'm trying to make green