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Did Deanna rat-out Soren to the Sex Police?

Did Deanna rat-out Soren to the Sex Police?

  • Of course she did, all is fair in love and war.

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • No, that's just horrible, Deanna is a sweet angel, there's no way she'd be that petty and malicious!

    Votes: 15 55.6%

  • Total voters
    27
Deanna was a mental health professional, and she was mentally violated in a previous episode. Full stop.

Now, given that I once wrote a fanfiction where Q attempted to seduce the entire cast of Voyager, I will not tell you that you can't suggest crazy ideas. But to the original question, I will say that no, Deanna Troi most assuredly DID NOT rat Soren out to the sex police. And that she was undoubtedly horrified at what was done to her.
 
It was doubly horrifying for Dee, because she did it.

However undeserved, Soren was labeled a pervert and a terrorist, and it was Deannas job is to fix mental instability, which means for what ever Happiness Will thinks he's going to get out of this, for Deanna, its just going to be work work work.
 
Yup. Like I said, you have your fantasy, I got mine.
RIKER: "Mr. Data... will Noor and the others be in their headquarters at this time?"
DATA: "According to their standard procedure, yes they will."
RIKER: "Mr. Worf, proceed as we discussed."
WORF: "With pleasure, sir." (presses button)
PICARD: "What do you mean, proceed as we disc..."
PFOOM! The J'Naii ministry of justice is blasted out of existence by the (reduced-yield) torpedo.
RIKER: "Presenting myself for disciplinary action. I just incinerated that courthouse and everyone in it."
PICARD: "Well, I... ah... look, just don't let it happen again, all right?"
RIKER: "Aye, sir."
 
Yup. Like I said, you have your fantasy, I got mine.
RIKER: "Mr. Data... will Noor and the others be in their headquarters at this time?"
DATA: "According to their standard procedure, yes they will."
RIKER: "Mr. Worf, proceed as we discussed."
WORF: "With pleasure, sir." (presses button)
PICARD: "What do you mean, proceed as we disc..."
PFOOM! The J'Naii ministry of justice is blasted out of existence by the (reduced-yield) torpedo.
RIKER: "Presenting myself for disciplinary action. I just incinerated that courthouse and everyone in it."
PICARD: "Well, I... ah... look, just don't let it happen again, all right?"
RIKER: "Aye, sir."

Well that's a hate crime.

It was the medical advice of Medical Officials on the Enterprise, Deanna would have been consulted, even if she did not have the final say, that Will Riker's almost nearly fiance( did he wash her feet?) had to submit to the absolute pleasure of marrying three other dudes, she'd never met before.

Hang on.

Cloning those Irish folkes just once wouldn't have been a problem?

But if their population tripled over night, they'd only have to marry one clone each instead of three. Did each quartet live in one house on top of each other, or was it like in Big Love where Bill Pullman built a house for each of his wives next door to each other in a polygamous cluster?
 
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Well that's a hate crime.

Igne pugnare. Fight fire with fire.

It was the medical advice of Medical Officials on the Enterprise, Deanna would have been consulted, even if she did not have the final say, that Will Riker's almost nearly fiance( did he wash her feet?) had to submit to the absolute pleasure of marrying three other dudes, she'd never met

Yeah, that was kind of icky.

Cloning those Irish folkes just once wouldn't have been a problem?

It would have been pointless. You'd just have copies of the same genes. Pulaski's "solution" was intended to enhance genetic diversity in the colony, not mere population growth.

A better solution than that might have been to request sperm and ovum donations from Enterprise crew. People unwilling to be cloned (i.e. purely replicated) might be willing to add to the genetic diversity of the colony more conventionally, i.e. having kids. Many might even like the idea.

And no, you cannot clone a person from either sperm or ova: both have only 23 chromosomes, and you need 46 (a sperm and an ovum together) to produce a human. So there is zero chance of your donation being used unethically.

But if their population tripled over night, they'd only have to marry one clone each instead of three. Did each quartet live in one house on top of each other, or was it like in Big Love where Bill Pullman built a house for each of his wives next door to each other in a polygamous cluster?

Technically, they could still do conventional marriage. It would just need to be understood that each woman would have multiple children, and her husband could only biologically father one of them.

OR, as I said, get a few hundred sperm and egg samples from Enterprise, and add them to the mix. With a genetic "population" of 400 or 500 instead of 200, they could get a much stronger start.
 
Igne pugnare. Fight fire with fire.



Yeah, that was kind of icky.



It would have been pointless. You'd just have copies of the same genes. Pulaski's "solution" was intended to enhance genetic diversity in the colony, not mere population growth.

A better solution than that might have been to request sperm and ovum donations from Enterprise crew. People unwilling to be cloned (i.e. purely replicated) might be willing to add to the genetic diversity of the colony more conventionally, i.e. having kids. Many might even like the idea.

And no, you cannot clone a person from either sperm or ova: both have only 23 chromosomes, and you need 46 (a sperm and an ovum together) to produce a human. So there is zero chance of your donation being used unethically.



Technically, they could still do conventional marriage. It would just need to be understood that each woman would have multiple children, and her husband could only biologically father one of them.

OR, as I said, get a few hundred sperm and egg samples from Enterprise, and add them to the mix. With a genetic "population" of 400 or 500 instead of 200, they could get a much stronger start.

In the bow breaks, Chrusher said that Humans do not give away their children, at any price.

Gonna have to assume that statement includes sperm donations, egg donations and orphanages.
 
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Gonna have to assume that statement includes sperm donations, egg donations and orphanages.
You can assume what you want; I will assume otherwise. Were I in such a position, I would be happy to donate mine if it would help a colony rebuild itself.

Regardless, the three-man rule was about genetic diversity, not simple numbers.
 
You can assume what you want; I will assume otherwise. Were I in such a position, I would be happy to donate mine if it would help a colony rebuild itself.

Regardless, the three-man rule was about genetic diversity, not simple numbers.
If the the Irish folk triplicated via cloning, the marriage formula would change to 1:1 instead of 1:3 and the diversity of the next generation of babies would be "almost" identical, without the polygamy which is exactly what I said up thread.
 
If the the Irish folk triplicated via cloning, the marriage formula would change to 1:1 instead of 1:3 and the diversity of the next generation of babies would be "almost" identical, without the polygamy which is exactly what I said up thread.
1. As I said, actual polygamy isn't necessary. They just presumably need to spread the genes around. If you're Brenna, you can marry a person you like, have a baby with him, and then have two more children with two other men (via IVF if you prefer not to have sex out of wedlock), and understand that your husband will have biological children with two other women.
2. Cloning would not affect genetic diversity. You would have 200 people worth of DNA whether you had 200 people or cloned an additional million. That's why they should have passed around the cups and had as many Enterprise crew jerk off in them as possible: it would add a greater selection of DNA, and reduce the danger of inbreeding.
 
The Enterprise Crew are not handing over their DNA to a doomed planet.

Anything short of the old natural way should have been outlawed, because the Mariposians cannot be trusted. Picard should have fired off a few torpedoes from orbit turning all the hospitals on the planet into smoking craters.

All modern tech should have been forbidden, making this a Bringloidi world.
 
All modern tech should have been forbidden, making this a Bringloidi world.
If they were smart it already was. They used the clones to teach them how to use the modern equipment (including the three seashells in the bathroom), but didn't include them in the gene pool. Because they were already seriously messed up by the "copy of a copy of a copy" problem.

Now what's next? Deanna manipulated her mother's new boyfriend into committing suicide in "Half a Life" to try to force a Lwaxana/Picard pairing?
 
You may as well ask "Did Riker rape Troi?" (Season 5, "Violations"). The characters on TNG do occasionally exhibit minor flaws, but what you see is what you get: heroes.
 
If Troi hadn't, then Q snapped his fingers and wiggled his nose.
Nose wiggle, huh? You don't suppose.....?
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TNG-era Deanna was never a favorite character of mine.

I dug her early accent.

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Pay attention to 0:14 through 0:18; I know someone of Greek descent and they sound DAMN close to Sirtis' performance.
 
The beard actually sort of suited Data.

I remember seeing her as a Mossad agent in NCIS. Her accent worked for that, too.
 
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