Did Casey Biggs / Damar save season 7?

[Garak007]

That whole arc through season 7 going from a loyal Dominion leader after Dukat left after the Pah'Wraiths, getting drunk, having a break down and then very last before he got killed he become the same as Kira a resistance fighter. The Irony lol. There by changing the fortune of the Alpha Quadrant.

Could not stop laughing after he mocked Weyoun for the his last clone getting killed by Wolf and then it seems like Kira and Damar when having the same feeling of mutual respect when they were fighting together and she even helped Damar after he died to carry on the cause.

Going from Dukat's right hand man to a key player in saving Alpha Quadrant not bad for a season’s work don’t you think?

There were some bad parts in that season and I think Casey Biggs acting saved it.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The arc with Damar, Odo, Garak and Kira saved S7 - that was some of the best stuff DS9 ever did, and wow, was I glad when they pulled out of that tailspin. I didn't want DS9 to end ignominiously! It was that Romulan episode with the Latin name I can never remember that finally convinced me they were turning things around.

Talk about taking years of character development and then paying it all off beautifully. Damar was the most obvious case, but all four of them were fully developed characters whose interactions were incredibly rich because of all the work that had gone into them. In Kira's case, the development was so incremental, I hardly even noticed the change while it was happening.

Going from Dukat's right hand man to a key player in saving Alpha Quadrant not bad for a season’s work don’t you think?

You can trace his frustration with the Dominion further back than that. The seeds of his rebellion were always there. He always felt he needed to respect Dukat's alliance with the Dominion, but when Dukat turned the whole shebang over to him, he finally felt free to do things his own way...

After doing a lot of drinking and hitting bottom - it wasn't really natural for him to take the reins of power like that - I figure Damar was probably from a lower echelon of Cardie society compare with Dukat, which kept him from seeing himself was a natural leader.

 

[Praxius]

That whole arc through season 7 going from a loyal Dominion leader after Dukat left after the Pah'Wraiths, getting drunk, having a break down and then very last before he got killed he become the same as Kira a resistance fighter. The Irony lol. There by changing the fortune of the Alpha Quadrant.

Could not stop laughing after he mocked Weyoun for the his last clone getting killed by Wolf and then it seems like Kira and Damar when having the same feeling of mutual respect when they were fighting together and she even helped Damar after he died to carry on the cause.

Going from Dukat's right hand man to a key player in saving Alpha Quadrant not bad for a season’s work don’t you think?

There were some bad parts in that season and I think Casey Biggs acting saved it.

I personally wouldn't say that he "Saved" the season, but he did play a big part in that season.

 

[StarryEyed]

It was certainly a bright spot that helped balance out the Winn/Dukat/Pah-Wraith crap.

 

[Admiral Shran]

No, his scenes towards the end of the series only detracted from the more interesting and entertaining Dukat/Winn storyline.

 

[Gul Re'jal]

I don't know if Damar saved the season, but I guess he saved the Federation. If he wouldn't switch sides I'm not sure the Fed-Klingon-Rommie alliance would win, or would win soon enough not to "celebrate" pyrric victory later.

I'd love to see more rebel scenes those, to see how Cardassians dealt with Kira and generally pro-Federation direction. We saw Damar, who switched 180 degrees and Rusot (and Seskal?), who didn't. How about others?

 

[Bones2]

No, his scenes towards the end of the series only detracted from the more interesting and entertaining Dukat/Winn storyline.

Lol, good one

Damar was terrific. I was watching some season 7 the other day, and I like some of it. The Cardassian resistance and Section 31/disease stuff is good. But the Pah'wraiths and the ultimate mary-sueing of Sisko was complete shite. Very hit and miss, and a disappointing end to a terrific show.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

Damar's storyline was good, but I think that more generally, one of the things that elevated Season 7 and helped me to see past the various problems that were starting to creep into the show was the prominence of the various recurring characters - Damar, Nog, Martok etc. By the end I may have cared more about them than about some of the regulars.

 

[JarodRussell]

Damar is such a great example why DS9 was the best Trek show with the best written characters.

Could not stop laughing after he mocked Weyoun for the his last clone getting killed by Wolf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YoPXogkXsk

This was pure gold.

 

[Admiral Shran]

No, his scenes towards the end of the series only detracted from the more interesting and entertaining Dukat/Winn storyline.

Lol, good one

I was only partly joking. Damar and his storyline was great, but I also loved the Dukat/Winn stuff as well.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Damar was excellent.

As to Dukat/Winn...I didn't mind it until the last episode, and that was because of poor timing/staging of it. The only way it could've worked the way it did was if they had explicitly said that they entered a state of time dilation when they went into the Fire Caves (which is at least believable and how I will explain it in my fanfic), but without said explanation, the scenes seemed to drag out, even though they were well acted.

 

[TheGodBen]

I don't think he saved season 7, I like that season well enough, but his arc was the best aspect of the year. Damar is an example of one of the things the DS9 writers were so good at; he started out as a nobody, but they kept developing him until he was as interesting a character as the main cast. Nog, Winn, Martok, Weyoun, even Dukat, all great characters that could easily have been forgotten about.

 

[DGCatAniSiri]

Damar was excellent.

As to Dukat/Winn...I didn't mind it until the last episode, and that was because of poor timing/staging of it. The only way it could've worked the way it did was if they had explicitly said that they entered a state of time dilation when they went into the Fire Caves (which is at least believable and how I will explain it in my fanfic), but without said explanation, the scenes seemed to drag out, even though they were well acted.

I just like to think of it in terms of pure storytelling convenience, out of necessity of pacing - the Dukat/Winn scene in her office reminds you that these two are still on the board at the beginning so they don't wind up introduced in the last half, leading the audience to say 'WTF, what's this?' at the sudden plot change, and the routine check ins of the two in the Caves actually take place days after the War has wrapped up. Given that Bajor has been a player in things, even if that part had been lessened as the war continued, I would think it'd be suspicious for the leader of Bajor to be mysteriously absent for the space of a week or two during the conclusion of the Dominion War. So in reality, Dukat and Winn made their excursion after the treaty was signed, but, in order to remind us that 'yes, this is important,' the things they're doing are seen during the other stuff, even though technically, it hasn't happened yet.

Of course, it could just be that the writers goofed, but I like my convoluted thought process better.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

That IS pretty convoluted. I think the writers probably goofed, but they would've had a chance to explain it by saying time went funky in the Fire Caves (not out of the realm of possibility). But they didn't, so it comes off badly.

 

[DS9 Gal AZ]

I wouldn't say he saved the season, but he was certainly a big part of it. His character certainly went through some of the most significant changes throughout the series. He started off as Dukat's blindly loyal flunky and then became truly hated when he killed Ziyal. Then he was a Dominion puppet for a while and once he rebelled against them and he saw his family slaughtered and maybe came to realize what the Cardassians did to Bajor was no different and just as wrong. I do think he had to be killed in the end, though, because of what he had done to Ziyal. The redemption arc could only go so far. It's funny to contrast him with Dukat, who was orginally brought on as a baddie, started to get a redemption arc, and then became so bad that it was almost comical (red Pah-wraith eyes and all). Damar was just sort of there in the background until they made him really bad by killing Ziyal and then redeemed him. Both were portrayed by excellent actors though.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

The difference with Dukat was that he sold his soul, and in the end, had to pay for what he'd done. (You know, I just came up with ANOTHER literary precedent besides Dante that I wonder if they were drawing on: Perelandra. Look at Weston/the Un-Man. Same deal there.) Damar never quite went that far, I don't think.

 

[otherjr]

I think he was ok, but Id still say one of the less impressive supporting characters, when you consider Garak, Weyoun, Dukat, Kai Winn. I liked the Caradassian uprising against the Dominion, but they commited a classic trek faux pas- they forgot they had a pretty puny budget. When I watch Garak, Damar, Kira and, like, 3 extras storming what is essentially The White House of Cardassia Prime, and unsuccessfully trying to boom out 'For Cardassia!' it makes me want to cry. Or laugh. They should have toned that down a bit, like instead of an all out attack it could have been a more controlled entry, where they had to go in quietly and keep a low profile. Thats what Cardassians do, right? Isnt Garak intriguing partly because he isnt a soldier, hes a spy? Garak doesnt attack you physically, hes a more subtle threat than that. Could have been a last great Garak moment. That also would have balanced out the already pumped up action of the finale. You could have had the full on battlescenes pumped with action, and run it alongside a slow tense build up. Like most of Season Seven, it was good, but I felt it could have been better, that the show was certainly beyond its Golden Age.

 

[TerokNor]

I think Damars storyline (and Garaks and Kiras) was the best in the season. I would not say he alone saved the season, but without his story I certainly would not have been that interessted in watching the season.
However there were many things that could have been improved somewhat or could have been more detailed.

TerokNor

 

[Zeppster]

Season 7 was unsalvagable. I never bought Demar as a leader of a resistance against the Dominion. I didn't see any transition from him from being a bad guy to a leader for anything good.

But his storyline wasn't even the worst in that season. There's about 100 storylines that clusterfucked the 7th season.

 

[Gul Re'jal]

I'm not even sure there were 100 storylines in 7th season