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Did anyone else see this quote?

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You may be joking, but it's hardly funny to be talking about people killing themselves. On top of that, finding it funny because some people have a different opinion then yours.

Not very Star Trek-like...
 
I find it amusing that people seem to find "genius" in things that Abrams is doing with the movie, but months before Enterprise came out the posters here had already roundly panned the series for doing very similar things.
 
I find it amusing that people seem to find "genius" in things that Abrams is doing with the movie, but months before Enterprise came out the posters here had already roundly panned the series for doing very similar things.

Surely most criticism about ENT was distrust in Berman and Braga?

I've seen people be equally critical of Abrams' "Lost", "M:I 3", Bad Robot's "Cloverfield" and the ST XI writers' "Transformers".
 
Supposedly this guy on a Trek email list that I'm on found this quote on ST.com about Star Trek XI:

Fans may not be comfortable with some of Star Trek XI.
According to the article, "The movie subversively plays with Trek lore,
and those who know it. The opening sequence, for example, is an
emotionally wrenching passage that culminates with a mythic climax sure
to leave zealots howling 'Heresy!'" "The movie is about the act of
changing what you know, said Damon Lindelof. "

I've looked all over ST.com and have seen nothing about it. Has anyone else seen this? I thought I'd ask before issuing a rebuke to this guy on the email list. Thanks for your help. :)

The quote says so little, really. A "passage?" Metaphorical? Real? As far as zealots shouting, "Heresy," goes, they probably will a few times during the movie. Even at the most pedantic differences. So, that doesn't mean much. Besides, what if the "heresy" at the beginning merely sets the conflict, and is resolved at the end?

What amazes me is they apparently have a very fresh, coherent, and grand idea for the movie's story and scope. Many involved in the production are fans, and they certainly seem to know what they're doing. And still, in anything but the spirit of Trek, some fans are scared and repelled by this rather than excited and attracted. Someone once said about others fighting for the status quo, "People are afraid of change." So true.
 
Captain Pike is going to die in the opening sequence. Screw continuity! It's the Hollywood way.;)
 
The part about the opening sequence comes from the EW article. But I was wondering if perhaps it is just going against something we've always assumed, not something we know is 100% true.

I think that what they are talking about is that the opening scene somehow changes the Trek timeline as we know it. That's why Spock and his time ship has to show up throughout the show and "repair" things until the end when everything is back to "normal."

Of course the proper ending would have older Spock dying (for the last time) in order to return things the way they were. I'm sure right before he dies, he'll tell the younger Kirk "I have been and always shall be your friend."

No, no, no. Spock tells Kirk, "I've always loved you!"
:lol:

Ho "bromantic" :guffaw:
 
Of course the proper ending would have older Spock dying (for the last time) in order to return things the way they were. I'm sure right before he dies, he'll tell the younger Kirk "I have been and always shall be your friend."

If that were the "proper ending", that would kind of negate the emotional death scene in The Wrath of Kahn as Kirk would know that Spock will be coming back to life in some manner down the road, since in his younger days, he had met "old Spock."
 
I think that what they are talking about is that the opening scene somehow changes the Trek timeline as we know it. That's why Spock and his time ship has to show up throughout the show and "repair" things until the end when everything is back to "normal."

Of course the proper ending would have older Spock dying (for the last time) in order to return things the way they were. I'm sure right before he dies, he'll tell the younger Kirk "I have been and always shall be your friend."

No, no, no. Spock tells Kirk, "I've always loved you!"
:lol:

How "bromantic" :guffaw:

Not that there's anything wrong with that...
 
Captain Pike is going to die in the opening sequence. Screw continuity! It's the Hollywood way.;)

Close, maybe Captain Robau and Kirk's father, George Samuel Kirk, Sr.

I don't think that would be "emotional" enough for the audience. I mean, really, who cares if Kirk's father dies?

I think it would. It'll hang as a dark note to bring the audience in.

A mysterious attach, someone asking for George Kirk, then the Kelvin destroyed is a very dramatic opening.

Then cutting to a young boy (James) hearing that his father is killed? Heartbreaking.

Showing that emotional his on the child, then moving through that kids life, and at a certain point, the adult Kirk has to face that emotional sore spot.

It provides an emotional anchor and some depth to James Kirk in the film, and there is little that is more powerful that a 12 year old boy hearing that his father has been killed in the line of duty.

This could bring many viewers to a state of tears.
 
I find it amusing that people seem to find "genius" in things that Abrams is doing with the movie, but months before Enterprise came out the posters here had already roundly panned the series for doing very similar things.

Nah, I approved back when the "Enterprise" producers were doing such things and I said so then. I'm consistent in that regard.
 
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