DEXTER Season 2
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Well my season 2 dvds finally arrived today, I was thinking about watching both seasons again before the new season, but I have so much to catch up on, I doubt I'll manage it.
Just finished season two. I was pleasantly surprised how good the story was, compared to season one (which I thought was too good for a sequel/second season).
I do have to say, what's up with the extras on Showtime DVDs? I'd rather have more stuff relating to the show I want to see than "free" episodes of tv shows I don't want to see.
I do have to say, what's up with the extras on Showtime DVDs? I'd rather have more stuff relating to the show I want to see than "free" episodes of tv shows I don't want to see.
Agreed. The extras are very lame. I have zero desire to watch Brotherhood or whatever that show is. I would have rather had some kind of one hour documentary about season two. It's not too big of a deal since I bought the set for the episodes.
Just finished the season myself. I agree that the finale was a little weak and anticlimactic, but overall I liked this season a little bit more than the first one. The Dexter/Doakes stuff was great and I really liked the revelation about Harry's death. Oh, and I liked Lundy also, sorry to see him go.
Anybody else seen the first ep of season 3?
Shhhh...I happened to stumble upon it on my favorite TV show website. It's very good! And a bit steamy...Michael C. Hall is so gorgeous!
Spoilers for season 2 ahead!!!! (no, I don't know how to use the damn code keys! I can't even put links in correctly any more on this new board! 
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I've watched all of season 2 now as well, and while I liked it, I preferred season 1 overall.
The good -
1. All the stuff about Harry - about how he was bonking Dexter & Brian's mom, his death, etc...and how all of these revelations made Dexter feel. I think the thing that gets me most is that he knew alot more about those kids in the trailer of blood than Dexter ever realized. So how could he have left Brian to his own devises while rescuing Dexter from Brian's fate?
In truth, the stuff about Harry sorta made me more sympathetic to Brian, in the end. Possibly even more so than to Dexter, in some ways. Dexter got traumatized...but Brian got traumatized...and then screwed by Harry, in alot of ways.
2. Lyla - I didn't buy the 12-step crap (serial killers don't go to 12-step programs - not to please ANY girl, and Rita was kinda a whiner this year), but once she was into the show, I liked how they revealed her bit by bit as a crazy...and not all at once from the start. And I liked how they used her to get Dexter out of his Doakes-related jam. I was wondering how we were going to keep the Code of Harry intact, while at the same time getting rid of Doakes. Because Doakes wasn't gonna be bought or be talked into buying the Code of Harry or anything. There was only one way out for Doakes....from the scene on the dock forward.
2. Angel - I really liked him this season, on a bunch of levels. He's a teddy bear, and for that reason, the most spongeworthy guy on the show.
3. I liked how they dealt with Debra's trauma over Rudy/Brian at the beginning of the season...and I liked how she ended up being drawn to a fatherly figure who she no doubt subconsciously thought could keep her safe from the scaries.
4. I liked how they dealt with Dexter's trauma over killing Rudy/Brian. I'm glad they didn't just forget about it as 'old news - last season' stuff.
5. That first shot of Dexter's underwater graveyard. That was frakkin' spooky!
The not great -
1. That temporary Lieutenant woman - Jesus, she was a nutjob. But I liked it alot better once I found out who the other woman was. Wow, LaGuarta is a political animal!
2. Rita and the whole 12-step silliness. Not buyin' it. Also not buyin that whole storyline with Rita's mother. In fact, I didn't like any of Rita's storyline this season.
3. Masuka. Why hasn't Dexter killed this little troll yet?
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I've watched all of season 2 now as well, and while I liked it, I preferred season 1 overall.
The good -
1. All the stuff about Harry - about how he was bonking Dexter & Brian's mom, his death, etc...and how all of these revelations made Dexter feel. I think the thing that gets me most is that he knew alot more about those kids in the trailer of blood than Dexter ever realized. So how could he have left Brian to his own devises while rescuing Dexter from Brian's fate?
In truth, the stuff about Harry sorta made me more sympathetic to Brian, in the end. Possibly even more so than to Dexter, in some ways. Dexter got traumatized...but Brian got traumatized...and then screwed by Harry, in alot of ways.
2. Lyla - I didn't buy the 12-step crap (serial killers don't go to 12-step programs - not to please ANY girl, and Rita was kinda a whiner this year), but once she was into the show, I liked how they revealed her bit by bit as a crazy...and not all at once from the start. And I liked how they used her to get Dexter out of his Doakes-related jam. I was wondering how we were going to keep the Code of Harry intact, while at the same time getting rid of Doakes. Because Doakes wasn't gonna be bought or be talked into buying the Code of Harry or anything. There was only one way out for Doakes....from the scene on the dock forward.
2. Angel - I really liked him this season, on a bunch of levels. He's a teddy bear, and for that reason, the most spongeworthy guy on the show.
3. I liked how they dealt with Debra's trauma over Rudy/Brian at the beginning of the season...and I liked how she ended up being drawn to a fatherly figure who she no doubt subconsciously thought could keep her safe from the scaries.
4. I liked how they dealt with Dexter's trauma over killing Rudy/Brian. I'm glad they didn't just forget about it as 'old news - last season' stuff.
5. That first shot of Dexter's underwater graveyard. That was frakkin' spooky!
The not great -
1. That temporary Lieutenant woman - Jesus, she was a nutjob. But I liked it alot better once I found out who the other woman was. Wow, LaGuarta is a political animal!
2. Rita and the whole 12-step silliness. Not buyin' it. Also not buyin that whole storyline with Rita's mother. In fact, I didn't like any of Rita's storyline this season.
3. Masuka. Why hasn't Dexter killed this little troll yet?
Season 2 SPOILERS
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I think Harry probably felt a closer connection to Dexter which is why he adopted Dexter and not Brian. Brian did get the raw deal but I figure Harry had his hands full raising Dexter as it was.
Season two really didn't have any real villains compared to season one. In the end both Doakes and Lundy are on the side of the law. I thought it was cool how they used Lila as a wildcard. In any normal day Dexter would have killed her without a sweat but she was dangerous since she got to know him so well.
Rita's entire purpose in season 2 was to break up with Dexter and get back together with him by the end of the season. It never interested me in the first place. Not a big fan of romance on any of the shows I watch.
Masuka. Why hasn't Dexter killed this little troll yet?
Masuka is funny as hell. The guy is preverted comments are always good for a laugh. One of my favorites scenes in the season how he said he was worried about the FBI finding shemale stuff on his computer.
I was speculating that Harry would turn out to be Dexter's real father. But, I guess not.
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Masuka, I am tired of. But I guess he fills a particular niche. But Doakes... I'm gonna miss that mothafucka.
Spoilers over.
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I'll agree with this. I too thought maybe Harry would end up being his dad until I thought that out, so no. It also looked to me like when Harry picked up Dexter, he tried to take Brian's hand but Brian pushed him away and started pitching a fit. So maybe Harry just realized from that moment that Brian was too old and felt like he would be more of a hindrance to Dexter than anything else? Too much of a gamble to risk Dexter when it's almost certain Brian would be a lost cause.
Lila was interesting, but I absolutely deplored her about three episodes in. I was glad to see her become a threat and be dealt with. Rita was whiny but I much prefer her to 'Loooy-laaaah.' In the second book there is a villain who has a connection to Doakes that sort of unites him and Dexter to find him who may have been interesting to use before Doakes was gone, but I guess that's not happening.
Masuka, I am tired of. But I guess he fills a particular niche. But Doakes... I'm gonna miss that mothafucka.
Spoilers over.
Well, that may be true, but you have to remember that when he took Dexter, he also took Brian's brother away from him.
Two little kids who watched their mother get sawed to death with a chain saw....and then Harry takes from Brian the ONLY thing Brian has left at that point?
Harry couldn't have known that Brian was a lost cause - you don't give up on little kids like that - not if there is any decency in you. But what he DID do was absolutely ASSURE that Brian would be a lost cause, by taking the only person he had left away from him, immediately after what was the most horrific experience a young child could face.
He left Brian completely and utterly alone.
I'm sorry...but I don't buy it. He could have at least have made sure that Brian got care and treatment....and a good home. Instead, it is implied that he took Dexter and just pretended Brian never existed.
I mean, these are not puppies we are dealing with here. These are people.
^Oh I agree wholeheartedly... I was just trying to figure out what Harry's reasoning might have been. The man was nothing if not pragmatic... and not so much on the warm-and-fuzzy side.
We had wondered even if it was possible that Harry saw the potential in Dexter to become a vigilante vengeance-taker and that it was that aspect that he cared about more than Dexter as a person himself.
We had wondered even if it was possible that Harry saw the potential in Dexter to become a vigilante vengeance-taker and that it was that aspect that he cared about more than Dexter as a person himself.
I love how the opening credit sequence is sort of integrated into the beginning scene of the last episode of season two. I thought that was a nice touch.
Okay I give up. EVERY time I see this thread when I visit this frakkin forum, I gnash my teeth in frustration so now that I have the DVDs, I'll just post blindly (without reading anything - I'm very very very spoilerphobic in regards to this show) so that I don't completely forget everything I want to say by the time I finish up, and to keep this thread bumped where I can find it later. 
Saw the first three episodes so far in one sitting, restraining myself from staying up all night watching a fourth, fifth and possibly sixth - I can relate to the Narcotics Anonymous scenes - wow wow wow, this show is just as great as ever.
Panning down to find all the unwater body bags - yikes.
Keith Carradine is a wonderful addition to the show, even tho I'm sure he's just here for one season. He definitely gives me the feeling that Dexter may have met his match at long last.
Nice idea to make Deb's "healing" dependent on nabbing the Bay Harbor Butcher, and beautifully ironic that Deb is one hell of a cop. Harry would be proud. Dexter's in big trouble.
But I'm not sure I buy the notion that Deb could see a pattern in missing persons having criminal records. What with the drug and gang activity in Miami, I would expect many if not most missing persons to have criminal records. A more relevant insight for her would be if the criminal records had nothing to do with drugs or gangs and were more focused on seemingly unmotivated violence.
Paul being killed is a real shock - I thought they'd save that till S3, so he can break out of prison and come after Dex. Although I noticed the casket was closed...hmmm...is there some conspiracy afoot? Or am I just being paranoid?
The actress who plays Lila is waaaay over the top - who does she think she's playing, Cruella DeVil? Even worse is the contrast with Michael C. Hall's understated brilliance. Maybe she'll calm down some.
Doakes abruptly deciding Dex is a drug addict after hearing the mega-creepy NA meeting "confession" is very out of character. And - in contrast with Rita - drug addiction doesn't come close to satisfying Doakes' suspicions. Nah, what I think happened: the confession gave him the crucial insight that Dex is truly an addict and therefore, there's no sense stalking him. Just hang back and wait for the Dark Passenger to take over again. Doakes is lulling Dexter into a false sense of security.
It's just a matter of time...gawd, this is fun!
The soap opera with Esme (the Haitian boss) is a little strange. Seems too trivial for this show. I almost want to think she and her boyfriend are staging all of that, something undercover? They're not romantically linked at all - Keith Carradine suspects the killer is in the Miami PD and the whole drama is somehow aimed at luring him out.
And then there's the unresolved plot thread from S1 about Doakes murdering a Haitian war criminal. Angel and Dexter both know something was wrong with that scenario. I have to wonder (and I'll code this, tho it's really just speculation)...
I can't stand it, I'm watching the whole rest of season tonight!!!!
I hope that boring-ass Mad Men doesn't take Emmys away from my Dex.
Hand me a power tool, I'm going after that brill-creamed idiot Don Draper.
EVERY time I see this thread when I visit this frakkin forum, I gnash my teeth in frustration so now that I have the DVDs, I'll just post blindly (without reading anything - I'm very very very spoilerphobic in regards to this show) so that I don't completely forget everything I want to say by the time I finish up, and to keep this thread bumped where I can find it later. Saw the first three episodes so far in one sitting, restraining myself from staying up all night watching a fourth, fifth and possibly sixth - I can relate to the Narcotics Anonymous scenes - wow wow wow, this show is just as great as ever.
Panning down to find all the unwater body bags - yikes.
Keith Carradine is a wonderful addition to the show, even tho I'm sure he's just here for one season. He definitely gives me the feeling that Dexter may have met his match at long last.
Nice idea to make Deb's "healing" dependent on nabbing the Bay Harbor Butcher, and beautifully ironic that Deb is one hell of a cop. Harry would be proud. Dexter's in big trouble.
But I'm not sure I buy the notion that Deb could see a pattern in missing persons having criminal records. What with the drug and gang activity in Miami, I would expect many if not most missing persons to have criminal records. A more relevant insight for her would be if the criminal records had nothing to do with drugs or gangs and were more focused on seemingly unmotivated violence.
Paul being killed is a real shock - I thought they'd save that till S3, so he can break out of prison and come after Dex. Although I noticed the casket was closed...hmmm...is there some conspiracy afoot? Or am I just being paranoid?
The actress who plays Lila is waaaay over the top - who does she think she's playing, Cruella DeVil? Even worse is the contrast with Michael C. Hall's understated brilliance. Maybe she'll calm down some.
Doakes abruptly deciding Dex is a drug addict after hearing the mega-creepy NA meeting "confession" is very out of character. And - in contrast with Rita - drug addiction doesn't come close to satisfying Doakes' suspicions. Nah, what I think happened: the confession gave him the crucial insight that Dex is truly an addict and therefore, there's no sense stalking him. Just hang back and wait for the Dark Passenger to take over again. Doakes is lulling Dexter into a false sense of security.
It's just a matter of time...gawd, this is fun! The soap opera with Esme (the Haitian boss) is a little strange. Seems too trivial for this show. I almost want to think she and her boyfriend are staging all of that, something undercover? They're not romantically linked at all - Keith Carradine suspects the killer is in the Miami PD and the whole drama is somehow aimed at luring him out.
And then there's the unresolved plot thread from S1 about Doakes murdering a Haitian war criminal. Angel and Dexter both know something was wrong with that scenario. I have to wonder (and I'll code this, tho it's really just speculation)...
Someone other than Dex has to take the blame for the Bay Harbor murders before the end of the season. Does Carradine suspect Doakes? Holy irony, Batman! If Deb links the murders to vigilantism, they have an unresolved vigilante case right under their noses! And Esme being Haitian and possibly knowing about Doakes' victim really makes me wonder - why bring in that character and make her Haitian unless they're going to use it somehow?
So Doakes goes to prison for Dexter's crime. Haw! That would rock, because it means Doakes can get out and come after Dexter in S3. I wonder if Doakes stalking Dexter might be further "evidence" that Doakes is the killer? He's sure acting strange...
So Doakes goes to prison for Dexter's crime. Haw! That would rock, because it means Doakes can get out and come after Dexter in S3. I wonder if Doakes stalking Dexter might be further "evidence" that Doakes is the killer? He's sure acting strange...
I can't stand it, I'm watching the whole rest of season tonight!!!!
I hope that boring-ass Mad Men doesn't take Emmys away from my Dex.
Hand me a power tool, I'm going after that brill-creamed idiot Don Draper.
Yes, the show is addictive but I'm not sure it's a good idea to watch 9 episodes in one day. I don't know how some people can do that but I can only do a few per day before starting to get tired. Besides wouldn't it be better to spread out the goodness?
Son and I finished season 2 about a week ago, and it was easily as good as season 1, not an easy accomplishment given the perfection season 1 brought.
If the third season is as good, I would like to see the writers and cast take on a revival of Trek....
If the third season is as good, I would like to see the writers and cast take on a revival of Trek....
I expect (hope) that there will be some deeper reason that Harry adopted Dexter yet left Brian out in the cold. It doesn't make a lot of sense the way that it's been explained so far.
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