Destiny: Gods of Night

[Dayton Ward]

Due to peculiar (and heretofore unknown) side effects of her experience in "Remember Me," Crusher's pregnancy will unfold at the rate of one day per standard Earth year.

She decapitates Picard at some point during the third trimester.

 

[TerraUnam]

Crusher was starting to show in Losing the Peace, as opposed to being not pregnant at all in Greater than the Sum.

We might expect her to give birth in the next novel, or you know this could be a perma-pregnancy.

C'mon Dayton, we all know you want to write it.

 

[Dayton Ward]

Well, aside from editorial and/or licensing-requested revisions, Paths of Disharmony is done, so it's a bit late now, one way or the other

 

[Starbreaker]

Crusher's pregnant? I must've skimmed over those parts.

 

[Christopher]

Crusher was starting to show in Losing the Peace, as opposed to being not pregnant at all in Greater than the Sum.

She was pregnant in the last one and a quarter chapters of GTTS.

 

[TerraUnam]

I thought Dayton protested too much.

 

[Dayton Ward]

^ Not sure what this is supposed to mean, but I suppose it's worth mentioning that Paths takes place in the fall of 2382, more than a year after the events of Destiny.

 

[Starbreaker]

That baby will already be 12 in sitcom years.

 

[William Leisner]

That baby will already be 12 in sitcom years.

Or in soap opera years, have a baby of his/her own.

 

[Thrawn]

^ Not sure what this is supposed to mean, but I suppose it's worth mentioning that Paths takes place in the fall of 2382, more than a year after the events of Destiny.

Wow, y'all are really pushing the timeline forward. The entire DS9 relaunch to date could fit in the gap between Losing The Peace and Paths Of Disharmony.

 

[Dayton Ward]

Well, I'm just a hired gun. I shoot where they tell me to aim.

 

[Thrawn]

I like it, actually. I know a lot of people don't, but if you're only publishing one or two novels a year, it makes much more sense to me to have them skip periods of several months to a year each time, much like when you're watching a weekly TV show, it makes much more sense to have about a week between episodes. There are obvious exceptions both ways, but I really want to see how the Typhon Pact develops long-term, and at the rate of even 2 books a year, it'd take almost 8 years of real time to cover 1 year of in-universe time, and that seems silly.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

I like it, actually. I know a lot of people don't, but if you're only publishing one or two novels a year, it makes much more sense to me to have them skip periods of several months to a year each time, much like when you're watching a weekly TV show, it makes much more sense to have about a week between episodes. There are obvious exceptions both ways, but I really want to see how the Typhon Pact develops long-term, and at the rate of even 2 books a year, it'd take almost 8 years of real time to cover 1 year of in-universe time, and that seems silly.

I agree. I'm rather excited over the various time-jumps represented in the Typhon Pact novels. A reasonable gap between stories sets up an entirely new situation to be explored, allowing for some significant changes and keeping the characters and settings fresh and interesting. Anyway, I suppose it makes sense to place "Paths..." a year and a half after "Destiny" rather than as soon as possible following the founding of the Pact; Andor would probably be in chaos in the months immediately after the invasion- now they'll have had time to calm down and consider their options and their next move as a society. They'll have had time to form new political factions, to have heard and considered any number of opinions- there'll realistically be more to work with, I would assume.

Plus the Pact should have pulled itself together and be far more certain over what it's own role in galactic affairs is going to be.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I suspect that we will eventually see yet another jump that takes us into the just pre- and into the post- Hobus super-nova era.

Not too soon, I hope.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

I suspect that we will eventually see yet another jump that take us to the the just pre and into the post- Hobus super-nova era.

Not too soon, I hope.

I suppose that once the Pact is up and running, that might make sense. Everything will have settled into something approaching a routine again, just in time for the next big crisis when Hobus blows. It might be the first really major test of the Pact's solidarity. If the post-Destiny novels ever seem to be winding down, a jump forward a few years to Hobus would give it a shot in the arm. In fact, all the political potential is actually making me slightly excited for the day when they eventually get round to the event, believe it or not. It'll still be sad losing Romulus, though...

 

[F. King Daniel]

Who even knows if Romulus will still be part of the Typhon Pact in 2387? I have a feeling the two states will have reunited just in time to die horribly.
I don't know how far Pocket is allowed to go in "reinterpreting" what we learned in STXI, but I distinctly remember Spock Prime calling Nero "the last of the Romulan Empire". Ergo: Few survivors.

Then again, there's a point in the movie where Ayel calls Nero "Prod Nero". I turned on the commentary and they say the actor butchered the word "Praetor". Does this legitimize Countdown's backstory, where Nero kills the Praetor Hiran and takes the Debrune Teral'n? Or do we just assume Nero's first name was "Prod"
Perhaps Spock's blurry mind-meld line was, at one point, "last Praetor of the Romulan Empire"?

I'm way off topic, sorry.

But considering how protective Bad Robot are about their movie, surely it's up to them what happened and who survived the disaster in 2387, since that event happend in their 'canon' jurisdiction, so to speak?

 

[Christopher]

Who even knows if Romulus will still be part of the Typhon Pact in 2387? I have a feeling the two states will have reunited just in time to die horribly.
I don't know how far Pocket is allowed to go in "reinterpreting" what we learned in STXI, but I distinctly remember Spock Prime calling Nero "the last of the Romulan Empire". Ergo: Few survivors.

Strictly speaking, Spock Prime only said that Nero called himself that when he introduced himself. So it's hearsay, not concrete evidence. And since Nero was crazed with vengeance and grief, that makes him an unreliable witness.

Besides, it wouldn't be the first time a Trek movie has overlooked the difference between a planet and an interstellar empire. See ST VI, where it was assumed that the destruction of a moon orbiting the Klingon homeworld threatened the entire Klingon Empire.

Then again, in a way, that makes sense. Empires are often highly centralized, so if the metropolis (the center of the empire's government) falls, the empire would effectively dissolve. Even if the bulk of the empire's subjects are still alive, the political entity, the civilization, can be considered dead. So no more Romulus means no more Romulan Empire, even if most of the Romulan species survives.

 

[Defcon]

Just thought I should post this here, since I also posted the first draft.

AFAIK it hasn't been finally greenlit by CBS, but if they approve it this is the GErman cover of the novel (the font will probably change, though):

And while I'am at it: If the covers that have appeared on amazon.de today are correct, Book Two will keep the original cover and Book Three will look like this:

Most of the other upcoming GErman translations seem to keep the original covers, with the exception of A Stitch in Time:

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Most of the other upcoming German translations seem to keep the original covers, with the exception of A Stitch in Time:

I like it; particularly the patchwork Cardassia City at the bottom.

 

[Garm Bel Iblis]

i want those....as posters on my wall.....now....make it happen....