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Destiny: Gods of Night

AFAIK it hasn't been finally greenlit by CBS, but if they approve it this is the GErman cover of the novel (the font will probably change, though):

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Interesting painting of Ezri. A bit off-model, I think, but it gives her kind of an anime look.
 
Damn, the foreign covers for books are always so much more interesting than ours. I especially love the A Stitch in Time cover. I guess it maybe predictable given the title, but I love that it has the images stitched together.
 
I like those Destiny covers better then the one we got. Though they weren't bad either, but I had always thought it would have been nice to see what Captain Hernandez looked like. As someone who didn't really watch Enterprise I didn't really have a visual on who she was. (though I did look in the star trek wiki). Not that I need to know what she looked like in order to enjoy a very good book. :)
 
Wasn't Hernandez on the cover of Mere Mortals with Riker in the American version? Did you mean that you would have liked to see her on the Gods of Night cover, too?
 
Hernandez is actually on all three US covers, with Ezri on Gods of Night, Picard on Mere Mortals, and Riker on Lost Souls. But none of them gives a clear look at her face. On GoN she's facing away from the viewer, on MM she has her head tilted back, and on LS she's in profile.
 
Hernandez is actually on all three US covers, with Ezri on Gods of Night, Picard on Mere Mortals, and Riker on Lost Souls. But none of them gives a clear look at her face. On GoN she's facing away from the viewer, on MM she has her head tilted back, and on LS she's in profile.

You mean the English speaking or original non translated versions of the books right as that is how she is on the covers of the copies I have and I've never stepped foot in America :bolian:
 
I mean the editions published in the United States, which can of course be purchased overseas.

I know what you meant, given you are always so precise over wordage I tried to make a joke, I guess it didn't come across to well, next time I'll write a disclaimer.
 
That German cover looks really nice.

Is that even supposed to be Nicole DeBoar? (I hope I got the name right...)

Is that vague shape in the background the Aventine? It is!

Is that the pic of Columbia from that Ships of the Line book? It is!

I thought the Destiny covers we got were very good too, if a little heavy on the Stargate Atlantis influence.

So, which hairstyle is the "official" Captain Dax one? :lol:
 
Interesting mix with the Ezri portrayal being rather off-standard. Different haircut, different hair colour, longer face than the real-life actress or the pic on the US cover. However the pic of Captain Hernandez (Ada Maris) may as well have been photoshopped right onto the cover. :wtf:
 
Is that supposed to be the Titan in the second Destiny Cover (with Riker)? I am not very good at identifying all the ships, especially if they look similar to each other.
 
This book just isn't good.

I know the words are transposed on accident, but that sums up how I felt about it.

(Hernandez and Inyx and Titan and Bacco parts excepted, because those were great. All the rest seemed to be filler, almost deliberately so at parts, like the fight with the Hirogen. As a Titan one-shot it would have been truly excellent... but 1200 pages were 800 too many.)

Whereas I thought that the Bacco stuff, though followed up on in A Singular Destiny well, was a whole giant blind alley that wasn't really necessary within the trilogy,

Whereas, from my POV, how on Earth do you do a story about the impending end of civilization without exploring how civilization's institutions attempt to cope? That'd be like doing a story about an alien invasion without including at least a subplot set in the White House.
 
I think I spent all the present-day parts of book 2 just wanting the Borg to goddamn invade already. I was rushing a little; I read the whole trilogy in about 36 hours. I think I should go back and re-read at a bit more of a leisurely pace and I'd probably appreciate some of the ventures afield a little more.

That said, I think my point is still valid; one person's filler is another's essential plot point, and vice versa. I think it's a little disingenuous for him to be continually posting that 2/3 of the trilogy was filler when it's clearly such a silly thing to say.
 
For me, there were no filler parts in the entire trilogy.

Every part had its place, from the three "main" ships, to the Columbia crew, to the Earth / planetbound scenes and even the "cameos" of other ships/crew.

Everything cntributed to what is, for me, the ultimate Star Trek story. :bolian:
 
Interesting painting of Ezri. A bit off-model, I think, but it gives her kind of an anime look.
Concur, although it's interesting that the American covers' Riker seemed a bit off-model to me, but the Riker here is perfect.

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That said, I think my point is still valid; one person's filler is another's essential plot point, and vice versa. I think it's a little disingenuous for him to be continually posting that 2/3 of the trilogy was filler when it's clearly such a silly thing to say.

I didn't mean to harp on it. I stated it spontaneously here, but I was asked a direct question in another thread, which I answered (and which mutated into a somewhat interesting discussion of thalarons). I'm not hung up on the choices that led to Destiny, and I'm glad so many other people found it much more enjoyable. After all, by no means does Destiny cross the threshold (ha ha) where it is bad enough that making fun of it is an end in itself; I just kinda didn't like it, and I've said what I've said because it's honest opinion, not because I want to annoy people who don't hold that opinion.

On the other hand, the billion posts with repetitive positive reviews don't seem to draw any ire, so I figured I could criticize Destiny twice in the past month and get away with it. I guess not.:devil:
 
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On the other hand, the billion posts with repetitive positive reviews don't seem to draw any ire, so I figured I could criticize Destiny twice in the past month and get away with it. I guess not.:devil:
To say "Two-thirds of the trilogy didn't appeal to me" is fair criticism of the work.

To say "Two-thirds of the trilogy is filler" is criticism of the author, implying that Mack purposely inflated his word count with what he knew (and you coincidentally agree) was irrelevant crap. And that's not fair.
 
Fair enough, as I don't mean to imply anything of the sort. On the other hand, "doesn't appeal to me" implies my criticism is totally arbitrary, when personally I feel I have a pretty good foundation for the statement that a single 400 page book would have been better.

Still, if "filler" implies that there was no earnest effort to exclude unnecessary or uninteresting stuff, then "filler" is the wrong word, and I can change it to whatever term accurately conveys the meaning "stuff that didn't need to be there" without connoting some kind of mens rea on the author's part.

How about "chaff"? At least that implies there's wheat in the story too, which as I've explained is very tasty wheat indeed... yeah, this metaphor sucks.
 
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