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Design the Next Enterprise

In terms of the earlier posts of the renown, the lower 3/4 shot looking up has the nacelles and supports mirror one another. I see STO fattened up the supports on Adams creation. His warp ring could be an as designed blueprint, with an as built design being what STO uses in the game.
 
ablative armor is the anti-christ.

How so? I actually kind of like ablative armor.

Then again, maybe it should be replaced by something that doesn't go away after getting hit. But we definitely need some sort of dedicated armor.

How does this sound: armor made out of a material that can absorb energy, and let it slowly dissipate or slowly feed it to the power grid for ship usage. Does it sound like something too fanciful, or within the realm of possibility (25th Century wise)?
 
ablative armor is the anti-christ.

How so? I actually kind of like ablative armor.

Then again, maybe it should be replaced by something that doesn't go away after getting hit. But we definitely need some sort of dedicated armor.

How does this sound: armor made out of a material that can absorb energy, and let it slowly dissipate or slowly feed it to the power grid for ship usage. Does it sound like something too fanciful, or within the realm of possibility (25th Century wise)?

The Vice Admiral version of the Intrepid-class has that ablative armour shielding from "Endgame" on it in-game. You could always ruin, er, I meant you could always enhance the Enterprise-F with that.
 
ablative armor is the anti-christ.

How so? I actually kind of like ablative armor.

Then again, maybe it should be replaced by something that doesn't go away after getting hit. But we definitely need some sort of dedicated armor.

How does this sound: armor made out of a material that can absorb energy, and let it slowly dissipate or slowly feed it to the power grid for ship usage. Does it sound like something too fanciful, or within the realm of possibility (25th Century wise)?

The Vice Admiral version of the Intrepid-class has that ablative armor shielding from "Endgame" on it in-game. You could always ruin, er, I meant you could always enhance the Enterprise-F with that.

I assume you're like me, and don't like the way that the deploy-able armor made the Voyager look. Even so, I'm still assuming that all future starships will have it, because it is thus far the most advanced and effective defensive technology that the Federation has at it's disposal. I think it will be a matter of refining how it looks, so that it doesn't sacrifice the aesthetics of the ships that use them.

It's either that, or we could say that the Federation manages to develop shields that are superior to the deploy-able armor in every aspect. Either way, Starfleet vessels should be getting much stronger defenses by now.

That is besides the fact however that ships will still need to have armor on their hull in case the deploy-able armor and shields fail, since getting hulled in space=having a very bad day.
 
I assume you're like me, and don't like the way that the deploy-able armor made the Voyager look. Even so, I'm still assuming that all future starships will have it, because it is thus far the most advanced and effective defensive technology that the Federation has at it's disposal. I think it will be a matter of refining how it looks, so that it doesn't sacrifice the aesthetics of the ships that use them.

It's either that, or we could say that the Federation manages to develop shields that are superior to the deploy-able armor in every aspect. Either way, Starfleet vessels should be getting much stronger defenses by now.

That is besides the fact however that ships will still need to have armor on their hull in case the deploy-able armor and shields fail, since getting hulled in space=having a very bad day.

I agree the armor system is the most effective defensive tech known ATM, but I assume it is one of those bits of Trek-tech (like Transwarp, Slipsteam, Genesis, positronic computing, etc) that only works properly once because the writers don't want to go there.

There are things in Trek that don't make sense realistically (like building an entire starship to test an unproven warp drive). And the fans just try to fill in the blanks (Excelsior was a failure/Excelsior's drive worked but they just call it warp drive now).

I figure the armor falls in that group, just because one has to effectively design two starships to make it work on screen.
 
I assume you're like me, and don't like the way that the deploy-able armor made the Voyager look. Even so, I'm still assuming that all future starships will have it, because it is thus far the most advanced and effective defensive technology that the Federation has at it's disposal. I think it will be a matter of refining how it looks, so that it doesn't sacrifice the aesthetics of the ships that use them.

It's either that, or we could say that the Federation manages to develop shields that are superior to the deploy-able armor in every aspect. Either way, Starfleet vessels should be getting much stronger defenses by now.

That is besides the fact however that ships will still need to have armor on their hull in case the deploy-able armor and shields fail, since getting hulled in space=having a very bad day.

I agree the armor system is the most effective defensive tech known ATM, but I assume it is one of those bits of Trek-tech (like Transwarp, Slipsteam, Genesis, positronic computing, etc) that only works properly once because the writers don't want to go there.

There are things in Trek that don't make sense realistically (like building an entire starship to test an unproven warp drive). And the fans just try to fill in the blanks (Excelsior was a failure/Excelsior's drive worked but they just call it warp drive now).

I figure the armor falls in that group, just because one has to effectively design two starships to make it work on screen.

I'll agree with you there, especially considering that it would mean having to design the armor for every single ship. It might be cool at first, but it would probably become tedious relatively quickly. It is either that, come up with some convention (the armor is invisible like some sort of crystal, for example), or just say that Starfleet managed to make shields that made armor obsolete.

I don't think that Quantum Slipstream will fall into that category, since the Aventine used it effectively, and she wasn't even an experimental vessel like the Spirit. I see no going back now, and I think that it is safe to say that it will be one of those mainstays in tech until the next big thing is invented. Not only that, but it seems that there is quite a bit of speculation in fandom that Slipstream will indeed continue to be utilized.
 
Slipstream and the deployable Armour have both been used effectively, and don't seem to need huge amounts of work for most ships to adopt them, well not the armour anyway. And since the Borg were the only enemy to be a true threat to the armour, most ships in the fleet could be equipped with it relatively easily.
 
Be sure to click the image to load the other views.

Don't care for the top or back views at all, its basically a rehash of the sovereign.

Blah blah blah its a successor - none of the other ships had to reuse specific profile views to be a "successor"

It would be 10 times better looking if it had its own design cues and didn't use the Sovvies.

Oh well.
 
I admit to being spoiled here by the annular warp concept earlier in the thread. Which does, IMO, take the key feature from the winning concept to one end of extreme. Yet from the latest diary entry, I feel that Cryptic may have now gone to the opposite extreme. To me the primary hull is just too close to the secondary hull. Making the feature of two necks almost unnecessary. It makes me wonder why choose the winning concept if you don't take more advantage of what makes the design unique from others?
 
Ooo, I didn't see those other views first time around.

I gotta say, usually I've found STO's nacelles to be pretty awful, but those are possibly the best aspect of the design :p
 
I wasn't overly fond of the design before, but I have to admit, with that new render shes really starting to grow on me.
 
I'll agree with you there, especially considering that it would mean having to design the armor for every single ship. It might be cool at first, but it would probably become tedious relatively quickly. It is either that, come up with some convention (the armor is invisible like some sort of crystal, for example), or just say that Starfleet managed to make shields that made armor obsolete.

I don't think that Quantum Slipstream will fall into that category, since the Aventine used it effectively, and she wasn't even an experimental vessel like the Spirit. I see no going back now, and I think that it is safe to say that it will be one of those mainstays in tech until the next big thing is invented. Not only that, but it seems that there is quite a bit of speculation in fandom that Slipstream will indeed continue to be utilized.

I'd like to see slipstream become the norm, but that's only because it makes sense for the tech to evolve. 121 years on from Kirk and it's still phasers and photon torpedoes. Not that that's a complaint or terribly unrealistic. We're 148 years beyond Gettysburg and we still use bullets. But we also have tanks, and laser guided missiles and this totally new thing called "aero-planes."

Ok, I've got to sleep, seeing a cinema screening of The Wrath of Khan Tomorrow up London (KHAAAAN!) BUT, The Third Dev Diary is out. And that is one Sexy looking Enterprise-F....

http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2527

Not bad. Better than I'd hoped. I think they've done a decent job expanding on the basic concept. Still not happy with the bridge off-set, but after what I just said I can't afford to get too traditionalist.
 
She looks reeeealy sexy from this angle. ;7

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More: http://www.stoarchive.com/blog/?p=546
 
Not really. She's much smoother, pointer and curvier than the Sovereign.

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Though I'll agree they need to take the textures a different direction, or they will look a bit too similar.
 
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