Den of Geek: 10 Movies We Don't "Get"
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well, of the movies i've seen on there (star wars, the matrix, and v for vendetta) i liked except for v, which i didn't get on multiple levels. most of them i haven't seen so i'm not much for discussion there 
I would be prepared to tolerate his disdain for the original Star Wars, were it not for the fact that he puts forward The Graduate as superior "transformative cinema".
He apparently can see how the love for Star Wars is generational in origin, and how you "had to be there" and be the right age to truly understand the love for it. But he's unable to see that about that meandering, self-indulgent, and overwrought piece of true baby boomer excrement, The Graduate.
News flash for baby boomers: your coming-of-age stories suck. They always sucked. They're about trivial and inconsequential nonsense. Your rebellions weren't really that rebellious and your insights weren't really that great. Those of us younger than you only read A Catcher in the Rye because you made us. And the disdain you may feel for Star Wars is nothing compared to the disdain we feel for Easy Rider.
News flash for baby boomers: your coming-of-age stories suck. They always sucked. They're about trivial and inconsequential nonsense. Your rebellions weren't really that rebellious and your insights weren't really that great. Those of us younger than you only read [I said:
oh god, so true!
Hmm.. I fall into the category of a "Boomer" though I actually liked most of the films he called thumbs down..
except for "The English Patient", that has to be one of the worst constructed films of all time..a huge muddled mess...
Perhaps it's because I'm at the end of the boomer era..but this "Generation naming" thing irks me..
I never fit the definition of "Boomer" other than year of birth, I find that lumping people into "year groups" and insulting anyone not of your group rather dumb and shallow.
just my 2 pennies...
except for "The English Patient", that has to be one of the worst constructed films of all time..a huge muddled mess...
Perhaps it's because I'm at the end of the boomer era..but this "Generation naming" thing irks me..
I never fit the definition of "Boomer" other than year of birth, I find that lumping people into "year groups" and insulting anyone not of your group rather dumb and shallow.
just my 2 pennies...
I don't understand any of them. What, for example, group would someone like me - born in the late 70's - fall in to ?
It's hard for me to take this list seriously when he dislikes Star Wars so much. I mean, really? "Star Wars isn’t just an overrated film, it’s the film that destroyed cinema." Oh please.
Without Star Wars there would have probably been no Alien, no Blade Runner, heck a lot of the Kurosawa films that were made with US help might not have happened, and that's just what I know about, I'm not really as well versed in film history as some.
He's just being controversial for the sake of controversy.
Without Star Wars there would have probably been no Alien, no Blade Runner, heck a lot of the Kurosawa films that were made with US help might not have happened, and that's just what I know about, I'm not really as well versed in film history as some.
He's just being controversial for the sake of controversy.
Answering my own question, apparently I'm a part of Generation X having been born in 1978.
Though I don't recall having any mutant powers.
Though I don't recall having any mutant powers.
I also think that we have to discount his knowledge of film history a bit based on his statement that Star Wars "destroyed cinema".
Let's say for the sake of argument we wanted to accept that cinema has in fact been destroyed, and that what destroyed it was the rise of the tentpole summer blockbuster spectacle film.
Even if those two things are true, Star Wars isn't the guilty film and Lucas isn't the guilty party.
The guilt would belong to Jaws and Spielberg respectively.
Once Jaws was the hit that it was, everything else Spielberg has ever made was going to be financed. It's that simple. Close Encounters, ET, Jurassic Park, they were all inevitable. And the existence of those films would have transformed the financing, production, and release strategy of all other films, with or without Star Wars.
Let's say for the sake of argument we wanted to accept that cinema has in fact been destroyed, and that what destroyed it was the rise of the tentpole summer blockbuster spectacle film.
Even if those two things are true, Star Wars isn't the guilty film and Lucas isn't the guilty party.
The guilt would belong to Jaws and Spielberg respectively.
Once Jaws was the hit that it was, everything else Spielberg has ever made was going to be financed. It's that simple. Close Encounters, ET, Jurassic Park, they were all inevitable. And the existence of those films would have transformed the financing, production, and release strategy of all other films, with or without Star Wars.
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Spielberg? Well, then it would actually be Jews that destroyed cinema. 
Oh, and bashing The English Patient...bold, very bold. I've never heard anyone say thing positive about that movie in the past 10 years.
Blog lists like this aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
Oh, and bashing The English Patient...bold, very bold. I've never heard anyone say thing positive about that movie in the past 10 years.
Blog lists like this aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
a-fucking-men.
If Catcher in the Rye had been written today everyone would be trashing Holden Caulfield as just being a pathetic emo whiner.
I read Catcher in the Rye without anyone compelling me to do so. I think it's a fantastic novel that teases a nerve in people that a lot aren't comfortable with seeing so thoroughly observed.
It's sad from many different perspectives to see people trash it so often.
The fact that it was written a half century ago doesn't stop people, trust me.
It's sad from many different perspectives to see people trash it so often.
The fact that it was written a half century ago doesn't stop people, trust me.
Well, DenofGeeks is nothing if not idiosyncratic. I did like this line:
The guy describes it as having "begat" six of the worst movies ever, etc. I can only think of five - what's the sixth, the "Ewok Adventure" TV movie or is he counting the theatrical release of that Clone cartoon?
The guy describes it as having "begat" six of the worst movies ever, etc. I can only think of five - what's the sixth, the "Ewok Adventure" TV movie or is he counting the theatrical release of that Clone cartoon?
I was enjoying the article until he crapped all over Star Wars. I also really enjoyed the first Matrix even if the sequels weren't as good.
I remember not liking "The English Patient" and when I saw the Seinfeld episode I loved that Elaine hated it. I also remember feeling like I wasted a couple hours of my life on "There Will Be Blood."
I remember not liking "The English Patient" and when I saw the Seinfeld episode I loved that Elaine hated it. I also remember feeling like I wasted a couple hours of my life on "There Will Be Blood."
I'm with you. I tried watching "The Graduate" on TCM a week or two ago ... I changed the channel about 20 minutes in ... Bleah.
I haven't seen Moon. I was about to watch on Demand for $4.99 because I was visiting my mom and didn't have access to my Netflix. Then my girlfriend said,"It has Kevin Spacey in it. I've never enjoyed a Kevin Spacey movie." I thought about it. I liked the Usual Suspects and American Beauty had a couple interesting visuals. Superman Returns was a let down. There was K-Pax. So I bailed on it and watched a Vince Vaughn movie.
So my question is, since it is on the list, was Moon good or is it overhyped?
So my question is, since it is on the list, was Moon good or is it overhyped?
It's great. And I take it you've never seen LA Confidential.
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