Defiant vs Galaxy vs Intrepid

[Lowdarzz]

The Galaxy class wins hands down.

My bullshit reasons:

1. The Galaxy is massive compared to the other two and while bigger doesn't always mean better it does give the ship much more reactor space, giving it a greater energy capacity. This in turn could allow for greater sheild capacity and longevity.

2. While the Defiant is equiped with Quantum Torpedoes, they fire from a couple of single shot mechanisms. There is evidence in multiple episodes of TNG that the Photon torpedo launchers on the galaxy class are burst fire mechanisms. This would allow for multiple torpedoes to be fired at the same time giving the Galaxy class the greater ability to overwhelm an enemy ships shields at a quicker pace.

 

[Cyke101]

Nah, I think the reason Lakota beat up Defiant so bad was because the Defiant wasn't trying too hard. Defiant wins.

The Lakota didn't want to destroy the Defiant, either. When Leyton ordered quantum torpedoes to be used, Benteen refused. In fact, the Lakota was the first ship to power down its weapons. But in any case, all it would take was one more attack for either ship to be destroyed.

But yeah, rewatching the battle, the Lakota scored quite a number of phaser hits before the Defiant could hit her with that last on-screen volley.

 

[Infern0]

I think Galaxy, want to know why? Watch best of both worlds part 1, when they fire everything they have at the borg ship, If the Defiant or Voyager was hit with that it would be over.

 

[RobertScorpio]

The DEFIANT was built to fight the Borg...as I recall, the only reason the D survived the first encounter was because Q snapped his fingers....And on more than one occaision the Feringi seemed to do pretty good against the D....I say the Defiant...Sure, the D has weapons, but the Defiant can Cloak...a decided advantage I'd say...

Rob

 

[Lt Cmd Data]

Guys look one thing

From you all, remember somebody Endgame of Voyager, the last episode?
If we look USS Voyager at that moment with that equipment, then he is the strongest ship.
If we are looking in way Galaxy-Defiant-Interpid no doubt that Galaxy or Defiant are more better then Interpid class, but Enterprise and USS Defiant better then Voyager in last episode?i dont think so

My favourite is DS9 and Defiant but lets be "real"

 

[Cyke101]

The DEFIANT was built to fight the Borg...as I recall, the only reason the D survived the first encounter was because Q snapped his fingers....And on more than one occaision the Feringi seemed to do pretty good against the D....I say the Defiant...Sure, the D has weapons, but the Defiant can Cloak...a decided advantage I'd say...

Rob

Defiant was built to fight the Borg, sure, but she was nearly destroyed in her only battle against them. As for the cloak, that's cool and all, except the Defiant would have to decloak in order to fire, which takes enough time to render it a non-advantage, I think.

But then that begs the question: Which ship is Worf serving on, Defiant or Enterprise? The Defiant did blow up more ships whenever he was on board...

 

[Cyke101]

Guys look one thing

From you all, remember somebody Endgame of Voyager, the last episode?
If we look USS Voyager at that moment with that equipment, then he is the strongest ship.
If we are looking in way Galaxy-Defiant-Interpid no doubt that Galaxy or Defiant are more better then Interpid class, but Enterprise and USS Defiant better then Voyager in last episode?i dont think so

My favourite is DS9 and Defiant but lets be "real"

I was under the impression that all three ships were getting standard equipment with current upgrades. Otherwise, one would say the E-D would have a third nacelle and a photon/phaser cannon, and that's just not cool.

 

[RobertScorpio]

The Defiant hands down is the best ship. As for the Borg running away from Voyager, it was Janeway's breath, not the ship.

Amazing how many votes voyager is getting...no love for the intrepid class I guess...

Rob

 

[Deks]

If we take the Endgame tech and put it aside, Voyager underwent significant upgrades over it's 7 years of trip and would likely be able to surpass numerous SF ships in virtually everything.

But let's put those aspects on the side-line as well.

If all 3 ships start off with same technological enhancements they'd receive during/after the Dominion War ... then the victory can go to either of them.
Let's face certain facts:
The Defiant went up against a heavily upgraded Excelsior class ship and fought it to a stand-still.
Anti-Borg technologies (which underwent enhancements before they were put into the Defiant ever since the Enterprise-D got them and were not really effective against 'Hu' Borg) would be incorporated in Galaxy and Intrepid classes as well.
They wouldn't have pulse phasers, but their standard phasers would likely be just as effective.

The Defiant despite it's agility cannot escape phaser beams, and it's firing arc is much more limited compared to other two ships (of which the Intrepid is rather agile itself).

But, I would surmise that if all 3 ships would be dividing their firepower between themselves ... well, like I said, it would likely end up in a stand-off or the victory would go to the better tactician.

Intrepid was also built for compat per on-screen reference and was mentioned in off-screen interviews to have identical weapons/shields compared to the Galaxy.
Being a smaller design with much less luxuries and creature comforts, the Intrepid can afford it, just as the Defiant can afford it's very powerful weapons in a small design because it completely eliminated creature comforts and luxuries (only dire basics).
This is why larger ships can meet their matches in smaller ships/designs and why I think the battle could go either way.

The Defiant wouldn't be exclusive in it's use of Quantum torpedoes.
The other two would likely have them as well, and I sincerely doubt the Intrepid can hold a maximum of 36 torpedoes given that Voyager was launched for a specific mission to retrieve the Maqui and therefore we cannot make assumptions she came fully loaded or supplied when nothing in the show supports that premise.

In either event ... if all 3 vessels would start off on equal footing with all of them using quantum torpedoes in battle ... well, it could get ugly.
The Galaxy might take a good pounding because it's less agile compared to the other two and couldn't really avoid too many torpedoes (as slow as they were portrayed to move) ... then again, the Defiant trups both vessels in agility, so both the Intrepid and Galaxy could get a good pounding on their shields with pulse phasers and quantums.
The Defiant would also be pounded a lot from direct phaser beams of the other two ships and it cannot divide it's fire as easily because it lacks full phaser array coverage as the other two.

 

[Deks]

The Defiant hands down is the best ship. As for the Borg running away from Voyager, it was Janeway's breath, not the ship.

Amazing how many votes voyager is getting...no love for the intrepid class I guess...

Rob

They propose the Defiant would be able to beat them both, while cringing at the thought that the Intrepid cannot possibly be an even match for the Galaxy class due to it's size.
By that analogy, the Defiant is a bug compared to the other two and should be squashed like one rather quick.
They acknowledge that the Defiant has advanced shields and powerful weapons because it eliminated crew comforts and luxuries larger ships enjoy, while ignoring the fact that the Intrepid (while hardly a luxury liner) can retain some creature comforts, but as evident runs on a small crew and supports overall less people at maximum, and because of that those aspects can easily be explained that SF can put inside it offensive/defensive systems identical to the Galaxy class thus ending in an even match, and receiving proper upgrades to retain that.

They vote on the premise which ship they like best while ignoring everything else.
Also, the Borg never ran away from Voyager (sans Endgame where future technology wrecked 2 cubes and the queen prevented a destruction of a third one by ordering it to retreat) ... in fact, Voyager was doing the running while for the most part getting out of those situations barely alive and intact ... and the collective if anything (the Queen specifically) was toying with them.

 

[roguephoenix]

I corrected it for you

What does FTW stand for?

awww hehe, it means for the win.

oh and any question regarding best ship should always be follwed with the answer: enterprise d. that's all.

 

[Cyke101]

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They vote on the premise which ship they like best while ignoring everything else.

Even if one voted for the Intrepid/Voyager, I doubt that's the case in regards to people posting here. Most of the arguments here either for or against the Galaxy or Defiant are using feats as examples. Someone would have to come in and list the Intrepid's feats, too, ie like how we see the Defiant continuously hammer ships that are bigger and slower than she is.

 

[jpch]

seriously all those galaxy class fanboys lol. ex my fav ship is voyager but it would lose vs the defiant same for the galaxy there is no way those ships would stand a chance. 4 quantum torp demolish a cardassian warship or a borg sphere etc... the defiant is num 1 num 2 is voy num 3 is E D lol remember yamato oddesy and generations...huge fat galaxy classes are kinda useless.

 

[Count Zero]

Please don't resurrect old thread that have been dormant for years, like this one, jpch. Prior to your post the last activity in this thread was in February 2009, almost three years ago. Thread necromancy is frowned upon on this board so I'm closing this thread.
If you want to discuss the disadvantages and advantages of various ships classes please do so in a new thread. I'd recommend to change your posting style in such a way that it's more legible to others (i.e. paying attention to grammar and punctuation) and has substance.