^ It's the least they could do to honour what Kira did for them in the most dire of circumstances.
Defiant officers missing in first contact.
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Yet Sisko probably isn't referring to ST:FC when he speaks of the recent Borg attack. After all, the Borg apparently were attacking all the time, as per Picard's odd insistence that they "advance" and "assimilate entire worlds" and the Federation "falls back". We never see these advances and fallings-back on screen, but Sisko's words might be where we hear of them...
Sure, Picard also says he has waited for six years for the Borg to launch an invasion of the UFP. But this is directly contradicted by his reference to preceding, apparently recent Borg maneuvers. So, considering that Picard has this Locutus channel open to the Collective, he may instead be expressing his unique knowledge that this time the Borg actually intend to "invade", rather than merely "advance"!
The nice thing about following the stardates is that the Defiant should be out for the count after the movie, and she indeed is absent from "Empok Nor" even though sending her to the Trivas system should be more logical than sending a mere runabout.
Timo Saloniemi
The Defiant was going to be destroyed in the movie until Ira Behr lost his shit over that and refused to acknowledge that happening in DS9.
Ira Behr confirmed it was a reference to First Contact. It was his thank-you for not destroying the Defiant.
There are a couple of regular Defiant crewmembers in First Contact besides Worf. Lt Jones accompanies the first away team to the surface, and stays there for the rest of the film. There's also this guy, who appears as an assimilatee in Engineering but then turns up on DS9 alive and well afterwards. Probably not the same character, but maybe...
In reality if Starfleet wanted to put a stop to the Borg they'd just unleash Kira on them, the Collective would be running scared.
Do we really think the "A" team would have performed any better in these circumstances?
Hell, might as well send the B team since their ship is probably going to get destroyed anyway. If Earth does get assimilated, The A Team will be needed more than ever.
As that guy has played two Starfleet officers and a Bajoran Militia officer serving on DS9, a civilian living on the station and one of the all-Vulcan crew of the USS T'Kumbra, I feel confident that assimilated guy on the Enterprise E was in fact meant to be a separate person.
Yes the Defiant was constructed as being the first line of defence against the Borg according to The Search but it didn't seem to have half the guts it needed in that scene!
JB
Yeah I could never figure exactly when Bashir was replaced as when the real one turns up in the prison he's wearing the old costume? Same as Martok cutting his hand and bleeding real Klingon blood in Way of The Warrior yet also being in that same prison for what was it, two years or something?
JB
If this was Starfleet's approach / overarching philosophy to defending their civilization, the entire Federation would have crumbled about 43 minutes after it was established.
"Hey...let's not put everything we have into defending our capital and all of our leaders...becuase we'll need our REALLY good officers and ships in case that doesn't work out."
Nah....not a good strategy.
The Federation was under attack which means Sisko's place was on his station just like Picard's was on the bridge of his ship. Worf was a trained Starfleet officer and more then capable of commanding the Defiant into battle, also it wasn't the first time he had done so.
But lets be real they couldn't have all the DS9 cast in the film not only because it would have cost to much but also because that's to many characters to have in the film.
But lets be real they couldn't have all the DS9 cast in the film not only because it would have cost to much but also because that's to many characters to have in the film.
Changeling Martok had a supply of Klingon blood with him that he could let out on demand during blood screening. Joe Sisko points out this flaw with the blood screening process in Homefront.
In all honesty, Starfleet really screwed the targ when it came to selections for the fleet in First Contact. They send the Enterprise to the Neutral Zone because they're worried Picard would compromise them. They leave their most advanced ship out of the fight just because its captain had a bad experience with the enemy. Really, if they were so worried about Picard being an unstable element, they should have just relieved him of command and sent the ship into the battle under Riker's command. As it was, the Enterprise D actually was under Riker's command when the ship defeated the Borg last time.
Of course, had they allowed the Enterprise E to the battle with Picard in command in the first place, he would have sniffed out their Death Star Vent right away, fired on that, resulting in the cube being destroyed before it had the chance to destroy or disable as many Starfleet ships as it did, which could come in handy with the Dominion War looming over the Federation's shoulder. That and if the Borg sphere launched while they were still outside Sol system, then there's a greater chance the Enterprise, along with ships which have not yet been destroyed could have caught up with if and destroyed it. After all, engaging the time travel before arriving in Earth orbit was apparently not an option for the Borg.
And yet still a fraction of how many characters are in Avengers Infinity Wank.
Is that true about Martok? Or are you pulling my tentacle? 
Thanks for the answer if you're right!
JB
Thanks for the answer if you're right!JB
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