Defiant & Oberth Starships Are Available
- Thread starter David Schmidt
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Hello David
Well I prefer using that in a trek sense just seems more polite
feel free to use it pass it on as they say. 
Sweet work by the way I've got put some penny's away so I can order some of these.
I have your Strategic design manuals and the 1701-a Deck plans and have enjoyed them.
keep up the great work :thumbsup:
I guess some people just don't understand certain hobbies. I once had a guy look at one of my model planes and say "You actually PAINT these things!?"
Me, I thought that was the whole idea!Though it does seem a strange reaction for someone geeky enough to post on a Trek bboard and call himself Borg-something.
Look at them and hug them and stroke them and name them "George"....
Gotta love those obscure Warner Bros quotes...
Look, Borg... Master Replicas sold a model of the 1701 for a couple of grand... and sold 'em out. And that, also, is a "copy of something someone else has done."
Go into most homes, and you'll find pictures on the walls. MOST of us don't have original Rembrandts on our walls, though. Most of us have reproductions of some original artwork. And ya know what? We usually PAID for those.
Mr. Schmidt here has been doing this sorta work for years. I first read his name in a pretty damned snazzy square-bound book, a couple of decades ago. I've got several published works with his name on 'em, though not yet any of these new series of prints.
This is the "Trek Tech" forum. As a general rule, then, you'd ASSUME that anyone coming in here, to read or to post, would have an interest in Star Trek technology, wouldn'cha?
People who have that particular interest... which qualifies, bluntly stated, as a small subgroup of an already small subgroup (hardcore Trek fans)... that pretty much is everyone here, except apparently you.
I have a HUGE stack of blueprints, all of which I have paid for, dating from the mid-1970s. I have a couple of shelves on a bookshelf full of various trek-tech-related books and manuals and so forth.
Why? BECAUSE I ENJOY THIS STUFF. I know perfectly well that it's all make-believe. But it's certainly no more weird than feeling a deep personal attachment to your city's football or basketball stars... the reality is that both are entirely trivial, both are entirely designed for entertainment, and both are related to people or things that don't give a rats ass if you or I personally live or die beyond today. In one case, because the people and things don't even exists... in the other, because they have many things that matter to them more than whether or not you do anything other than buy their branded products and throw your money at 'em.
I'd have to say that David Schmidt's work on these is significant more valuable to me, personally, than, say, the efforts of the Cleveland Browns... I'll get more enjoyment out of reading and studying his work than I will out of watching a ballgame, and it'll cost me less! Oh, and it also involves me using my brain, as opposed to sitting on the couch with a beer and a bag of cheetos... turning slowly into a potato.
I'm curious, Borg... do you think that he just scanned and is reprinting the full deckplans that Paramount Pictures creates for every ship design that they do for every Star Trek show? Or do you recognize that the creation of this work, from scratch, and the level of thought and effort that goes into making the existing physical sets fit into the existing model (which often do NOT match properly!) and then to flesh out the entire rest of the ship layout... stuff that was never seen on-screen in most cases... do you actually think that this qualifies as "no work" on his part?
Or are you just trying to argue in favor of him donating his work to you so you can download it for free?
I'm honestly not following what your complaint here is.
I just want my name to be spoken in one breath with Josef, Okuda, Probert...
Seriously, I never found my muse until the day I saw the FJ plans on sale. Love at first sight - and I realized what my hobby would be. But there were no plans available for the ships I wanted... so I made them, as close to the show (and actual Navy architecture) as I possibly could.
Seriously, I never found my muse until the day I saw the FJ plans on sale. Love at first sight - and I realized what my hobby would be. But there were no plans available for the ships I wanted... so I made them, as close to the show (and actual Navy architecture) as I possibly could.
1. What is 'trolling'? I don't spend as much time on the BBS as most of you (too busy designing).
2. Borg; do you want to see an example of Pavlovian conditioning from true Star Tech fans? Watch this:
"I'm halfway through designing Akira."
2. Borg; do you want to see an example of Pavlovian conditioning from true Star Tech fans? Watch this:
"I'm halfway through designing Akira."
"Designing" meaning, designing the interior layout. (as well as drawing the exterior of course and making it all cool looking and matching what's onscreen and all that stuff)
Not trying to take credit for the actual design of the ships by the creators - Matt Jefferies, the folks at ILM, etc etc etc.
Just wanted to clarify that.
PS, Dave, dude, get with this whole interweb thing!
Trolling as I know it is to purposely post something with the intent to rile people up and get a response. But sometimes there's a real question on a forum that is interpreted as trolling. Such as when I might comment that I don't understand why people care about people they don't know winning games and achieving something (scoring goals) while they just watch. People think I'm being sarcastic which isnt the case.
Or as above, people actually want and look at deck plans of imaginary ships?! Huh? Well, yes we do and we love it.
People watch players they've never met score goals? I guess so.. it's all entertainment on different levels I guess.. 'relativity' being the key word.
I just listened to an interview with Ben Browder (from Farscape), and he was asked about fans who are.. extreme shall we say. He said something like "when you see someone dressed in a costume with their face painted yelling incoherantly.. you could be at a football game" (or a trek convention).
Not trying to take credit for the actual design of the ships by the creators - Matt Jefferies, the folks at ILM, etc etc etc.
Just wanted to clarify that.
PS, Dave, dude, get with this whole interweb thing!
Trolling as I know it is to purposely post something with the intent to rile people up and get a response. But sometimes there's a real question on a forum that is interpreted as trolling. Such as when I might comment that I don't understand why people care about people they don't know winning games and achieving something (scoring goals) while they just watch. People think I'm being sarcastic which isnt the case.
Or as above, people actually want and look at deck plans of imaginary ships?! Huh? Well, yes we do and we love it.
People watch players they've never met score goals? I guess so.. it's all entertainment on different levels I guess.. 'relativity' being the key word.
I just listened to an interview with Ben Browder (from Farscape), and he was asked about fans who are.. extreme shall we say. He said something like "when you see someone dressed in a costume with their face painted yelling incoherantly.. you could be at a football game" (or a trek convention).
^ Yep. Trolling is a post done solely to start a fight. Since we're pretty anonymous over the net, an innocent question can sometimes give the wrong impression, because it's not quite the same as a live conversation. We might think the author means something they don't mean at all. Luckily, I don't think that's happened in this thread.
wait you think i was trolling still?
anyway. in response to that really long post which compared gettign this prints to sport, dude dont get so defensive...
what i wanna know is what people see in em and how the prints are delivered or whatever that is amazing..
please enlighten me..
do anyo of you have photos of you with your prints..framed or whatever?
anyway. in response to that really long post which compared gettign this prints to sport, dude dont get so defensive...
what i wanna know is what people see in em and how the prints are delivered or whatever that is amazing..
please enlighten me..
do anyo of you have photos of you with your prints..framed or whatever?
What's your favorite past time/hobby? Why do you do it? Your answer to that question will very likely be the same - or very close to - our answer.
Seriously.
I don't have any pics of me w/my any of my stuff, no. I've got pics of some of my prints that are framed, however I don't have immediate access to any of them right now.
Is the Constitution class going to be the TV version? What about the refit - is it the TMP version? [These are listed as being late 2007]
I would assume that this is the case, for if you click on "Samples", it shows several pics listed as "Constitution-class Rebuild". I probably would have used the word "Upgrade" vs. "Rebuild" and I'm certainly not going to open up the Connie Upgrade vs. "Enterprise Class" can-o-worms, but that's definitely the old TMP girl. And yes, I would also assume that the plan-vanilla "Constitution-class" is the original TV version.
Excellent stuff, BTW, David! :thumbsup:
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