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Defiant Hierarchy

So, on the station, it's:

The Sisko
Kira
Worf
Jadzia
hundreds of other people
O'Brien

On the ship, it's:

The Sisko
Worf
Kira
Jadzia
a few dozen other people
O'Brien

Poor O'Brien. That poor non-comm bastard.....
 
Actually, we don't know whether Jadzia is that high up for sure. The station is full of Bajoran officers, many of whom might be higher up in the chain of command (and still Eddington would see it necessary to eliminate Jadzia in "For the Cause" because getting the Starfleet top guys and gals out of the way would be more crucial to his operation than affecting the chain of command in general). Also, the station's Starfleet security officer is probably always at least a Lieutenant, even if we only see this Primmin a couple of times and Eddington doesn't stay for long. Not all of those Lieutenants need be junior to Jadzia in the early seasons.

On the ship, there are few Bajorans in the general case, but there are always assorted redshirt extras who might have command qualifications the blueshirt Jadzia lacks, even if their rank is lower than hers. Although she seems amply qualified in the wartime episodes where she gets the ship while Sisko pushes paper.

TImo Saloniemi
 
It's been explained a number of times through the series on how the command structure works and my previous explanations are based on what was said, as well as what was done through various episodes.

DS9 was a jointly operated station with a Starfleet commander in command, but owned by Bajor and under Bajoran jurisdiction. The best way to integrate the Bajorans into being qualified in joining in with the Federation was to get both Starfleet and Bajoran officers to work side by side and equally.

In the same sense, the same procedures were used on the Defiant from time to time, where Kira would be in command or 1st officer or Worf would be.... it tied in with the joint-operations aspect between the Federation and Bajor, which is also why Bajorans were allowed to use the Runabouts and be in command of Starfleet Security officers, etc.

Sure none of this was directly explained within the mentioned episodes above where Kira took command, but considering it was explained a number of times in past episodes over similar situations, why do they need to take out more time in the episodes to re-explain it all again, when it should just be a given?

The only time I remember seeing Kira take command or be first officer on the Defiant was when either Worf wasn't around, the mission they were on had Bajoran interests involved.... or the Defiant was assigned to a large battle involving a large number of ships where having both Worf and Kira's expertise would come in hand..... in the end, it was Sisko's discretion on how it all worked, as there were times Kira was on the Defiant but not as first officer, rather, she was assigned to another station on the left side of the Bridge near O'Brien to keep an eye on sensors, or something.

Well, as the above convoluted explanation underlines, the hierarchy on the Defiant is simply not clear. There are inconsistencies that we can account for by making stuff up: that is the essence of fanwank.

We know it was not initially clear because we can read online reviews that were written when season 4 was first airing and that are full of complaints about this very issue (see Jammer and Michele Erika Green for some examples). In one episode (Rules of Engagement, I think), it seems like Miles has command priority over Kira on the Defiant, which is never shown to be the case elsewhere. Attentive viewers such as Green and Jammer cannot even tell why Worf has command priority over Kira on the Defiant, since his position was established as "Strategic Operations Officer" of DS9 in Way of the Warrior (not first officer of anything).

The bit of dialogue in Apocalypse Rising about Worf being in command of the Defiant in Sisko's absence, and Kira in command of the station, was probably meant to clarify this for the benefit of understandably confused viewers (though it raises other problems).

This status quo is then contradicted in Tears of the Prophets because Worf is on the bridge, but Kira takes command. Sisko has had a vision and is incapacited, so there is no indication that he chooses Kira for some specific reason at that moment.

Here we have to fanwank an explanation, the main possibilities being Worf's losing command priority after Change of Heart and the fact that he was assigned to be Martok's first officer during the occupation arc (so perhaps his position has been changed to SOO of the station and first officer of Martok's ship, rather than first officer of the Defiant). As is usually the case in this type of scenario, the real reason is out-of-universe: initially, the writers were working the "Worf learns how to be a command officer" angle, while later they had abandoned that in favor of the "Worf becomes a full-time Klingon" angle, so it was no longer meaningful to have Worf in command of the Defiant.
 
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In one episode (Rules of Engagement, I think), it seems like Miles has command priority over Kira on the Defiant

That's probably a misunderstanding of writer intent. When interrogated on the subject of "what would you do if you were in command?", O'Brien first squirms and argues that he isn't. The prosecution persists, and O'Brien finally describes such a hypothetical situation. Odds still are that O'Brien would never get to command the ship, not until every officer down to Nog was dead or incapacitated.

Prosecutor Ch'Pok: "Chief O'Brien, if Mister Worf had been injured could you have taken over command of that ship?"
O'Brien: "I would have."
Ch'Pok: "Let's say that happened. You're in command."

O'Brien has no reason to say "I would have, provided everybody else was injured or dead, too". That's not relevant to the make-believe he has been ordered to go along with. Ch'Pok has already dismissed O'Brien's argument that he wasn't actually in command, and O'Brien would win nothing further by being stubborn about that.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Poor O'Brien. That poor non-comm bastard.....

Yeah true that. The very least he could have done was maybe get a promotion out of Sisko, after all he had done and gone through for the Station.

I mean if Picard can promote an underaged civilian into an acting Ensign, and then a full Ensign without so much as even a day at the Academy, then surely O'Brien can be an Lieutenant.
 
That's probably a misunderstanding of writer intent.

Possibly, but it is unclear, and was perceived as such by at least some viewers at the time, as comments by reviewers such as Jammer illustrate.

O'Brien does say, "I would have," not "I could have," so really, while we can only speculate as to what the writers' intent was, the dialogue suggests that Miles would logically take command of the Defiant if Worf were injured. We are left with the necessity of fanwanking what the writers themselves do not make clear, which was my original point.
 
Didn't Kira have some Command Authority on Defiant? She's the one that got duped by Thomas Riker and unlocked Defiant's systems for him to steal.
 
Considering the fact that the Defiant is a starfleet vessel, Major Kira should only be a "guest" there and certainly not in command!
 
Considering the fact that the Defiant is a starfleet vessel, Major Kira should only be a "guest" there and certainly not in command!

I watched In Purgatory's Shadow / By Inferno's Light the other day and there are several times where Sisko orders Kira to take the Defiant out for one reason or another. I think it makes sense too. Worf is obviously absent, or else he would have been commanding the ship. But both times Kira took the ship out it was in defense of the station and of Bajor. As first officer of DS9, Kira can command the Defiant in its capacity of being attached to the station. Whenever it is deployed for a mission away from the station, she either remains at DS9 or comes along as a guest.
 
It seems to me with the Defiant being "attached" to DS9, and Kira being the first officer of DS9, she would outrank Worf on the Defiant. However, in Paradise Lost, Worf was in command of the Defiant during the battle scene with the Lexington. The writers should have better defined the pecking order of the Defiant.
 
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