It is funny... if I wouldn't let Probert, Sternbach or Okuda convince me that a square peg fit in a round hole, why should I give them any more weight here? If they want to see TOS as an Irwin Allen production... that is fine. That said, what's with the screwed up facts being thrown about? If you guys can't argue from what is actually known then what is the point? If you have to tweak the facts, then you must not think too much of your position. For example... the Bridge set is to scale with the bridge on both models and the original plans (finished on November 7, 1964). When was the bridge set build? First day of shooting on the Bridge set was November 30, 1964, and all the pieces were wild at that point as the studio where it was assembled wasn't where it finally ended up in the series. When was it assembled at the studio? That is most likely when the lift was moved. So why is anyone around here talking like the 540 length was still around in November? It wasn't. The only reason markings from the earlier plans made it onto the models is that all the marks on the model came from the earlier plans... the final model construction plans had no hull markings on them! None of this is rocket science! So what if Jefferies wanted it forward... he wasn't in a position to argue the point. He didn't want windows on the Enterprise... he wasn't in a position to argue the point. In 1964 he was happy to have a JOB. If the people above him wanted to screw up his design work... he didn't care as long as they kept cutting him a pay check. So what if everyone and their mother thought the Bridge faced forward... it wasn't rotated enough to matter! It isn't as if they were a full 1/4 to port, it was less than 1/10 off from forward. That is still forward enough that nothing on screen (and no amount of belief of those acting on the show) make any real difference. If you want the turbo lift out in empty space... fine. If you want to lower the Bridge to deck 5... fine. But the history of what happen shouldn't suffer just so you guys can fight a pointless battle. We've gotten a ton of data (data which, I might add, Probert, Sternbach or Okuda all had access to long before us to do something with and DIDN'T) which has helped fill in a ton of blanks about the Fall and Winter of 1964... lets not throw all our newly acquired data to the wind just so that you can win a religious debate. Call each other names, name drop all you want, make it a full on knock-down, drag-out fight... but the history should not be misrepresented by either side. It has taken nearly 45 years for us (outsiders) to fill in the blanks, so please keep it as something above the fray.