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Deadline: Trek 2 May Be Pushed to Holiday 2012

But their the one's that said they'd have a script done by Christmas 2009.

They may have had an early aim to do that, but by the end of 2009 it was already assumed/known that the sequel would be a 2012 release.

Very unprofessional to tell someone that you'll have the work they're paying you for done by a certain date, then blow it off for other projects. :shrug:
Now you're going a little too far. You don't know what kind of arrangement Bad Robot has with Paramount. In fact, one of those other projects was M:I:4, in which J.J. Abrams and Bryan Burk have wrapped up, which is also a Paramount Pictures release! So you can take comfort in knowing that the studio is very well aware of what's going on and the writers of the sequel that you're not very interested in seem to be doing fine in Paramount's eyes.
 
This whole reboot was a vanity project. Abrams got Trek back on the big screen, and frankly, he's ready to move on to other things.

You'll get your sequel, and that's it.
 
^^Well Bond 23 won't be out until next year, which will have been a 4 year gap between films, but people will still go and see it. True maybe not quite the same as a Sci-Fi film butt the gap is simillar.

It is much different since even the most recent Bond movie that was a terrible piece of junk (Die Another Day) made $430+ million worldwide. It had the luxury of already being widely accepted by the general audience. Trek is somewhat different since the last film just came off the franchise's worst performance and broke out for the first time in a long, long time to a general audience. They don't want to squander that.
 
People seem to be worried about competing with other films, but Trek did fine against Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men.
 
People seem to be worried about competing with other films, but Trek did fine against Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men.

Exactly. And Paramount seems to have a lot of confidence in this new take Trek that they seldom did in previous Trek (and maybe this time will extend that confidence internationally.)

Either way, I'm thinking of the promotional possibilities. Superbowl Spots, trailers attached to other summer tentpole films, coverage at comic con, holiday promotional tie-ins, etc. Even if they just move it back to August 2012 there will still be some great opportunities there.
 
People seem to be worried about competing with other films, but Trek did fine against Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men.

Well Terminator, Angels and Demons and X-men were all awful and ST had huge buzz from the mainstream press (Hey Star Trek is back with Kirk and Spock) plus there was the whole Obama==Spock nonsense.

The next movie doesn't have these advantages so it's probably not going to do as well.
 
People seem to be worried about competing with other films, but Trek did fine against Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men.

Well Terminator, Angels and Demons and X-men were all awful and ST had huge buzz from the mainstream press (Hey Star Trek is back with Kirk and Spock) plus there was the whole Obama==Spock nonsense.

The next movie doesn't have these advantages so it's probably not going to do as well.

Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men may have been awful but they're still franchises that should draw the money.

People seem to under estimate the fanbase and appeal of Star Trek once again. Movies should fear going up against Star Trek, though not in the foreign arena which is something which they really need to try fix. I did a quick google search and couldn't do many movies that would be able to compete with Star Trek.

They said at E3 that the game will come out in Summer 2012 along with Star Trek 2 and that was a week or two ago now.

The movie has a far bigger advantage now that Star Trek 1 was a massive success on DVD and in the theaters. More people are likely to go see it in the theater than before, as Star Trek 1 had a lot of legs due to the word of mouth/reviews.

In fact, I highly doubt Paramount want their marquee film to be GI Joe 2. If they can get it out for June, they will imo...
 
plus there was the whole Obama==Spock nonsense.
That wasn't exactly a huge factor.

Are you crazy? If you paid any attention to politics that's all you heard (plus that stupid "he plays 11 dimensional chess"). There were articles in Newsweek, NY Times and Time magazine referencing it.


How do you guess?

Most of Star Treks success was due to media hype. It's always harder to generate hype for a sequel and that's why sequels usually don't do as well.
 
Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men may have been awful but they're still franchises that should draw the money.

I don't know about Angels and Demons but Terminator and X-men were both huge disappointments. X-men got rebooted with 1st class and Terminator is also going to be rebooted. I haven't heard any movie deals for "Lost Symbol" so A&D may not have done well.

People seem to under estimate the fanbase and appeal of Star Trek once again.

If ST was as strong as you think, it wouldn't need to be rebooted, processed,homogenized and made public friendly. ST is just a brand name now for summer blockbuster franchise but I don't think it's that strong of a brand. First the whole geek wave is dying down. People are becoming less interested in Sci-Fi in general. Second to succeed JJ Abrams had to deliver a movie better than the first. Everything I've seen from him shows that he may get you interested but he can't sustain that interest. Third 2012 is election season and it's probably going to be the ugliest and loudest election in a generation. Fourth one word AVENGERS. Three more words "by Joss Whedon".

Oh and then there is this little independent film called SUPERMAN.

Holiday 2012 sounds like a good idea.
 
Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men may have been awful but they're still franchises that should draw the money.

I don't know about Angels and Demons but Terminator and X-men were both huge disappointments. X-men got rebooted with 1st class and Terminator is also going to be rebooted. I haven't heard any movie deals for "Lost Symbol" so A&D may not have done well.

People seem to under estimate the fanbase and appeal of Star Trek once again.
If ST was as strong as you think, it wouldn't need to be rebooted, processed,homogenized and made public friendly. ST is just a brand name now for summer blockbuster franchise but I don't think it's that strong of a brand. First the whole geek wave is dying down. People are becoming less interested in Sci-Fi in general. Second to succeed JJ Abrams had to deliver a movie better than the first. Everything I've seen from him shows that he may get you interested but he can't sustain that interest. Third 2012 is election season and it's probably going to be the ugliest and loudest election in a generation. Fourth one word AVENGERS. Three more words "by Joss Whedon".

Oh and then there is this little independent film called SUPERMAN.

Holiday 2012 sounds like a good idea.

The words "Joss Whedon" are going to have NO bearing on if the Avengers will be successful or not (and it will be sucessful). His last 4 or five projects haven't been able to sustain, despite his reputation. At this point JJ Abrams has a bigger marketable name to the film industry.

I think this sequel is going to be just fine, in terms of quality of film, and financial success. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves, especially on the latter issue.
 
I think this sequel is going to be just fine, in terms of quality of film, and financial success. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves, especially on the latter issue.

I think it depends. Star Trek IV had that crossover appeal yet Star Trek V tanked against the competition (Batman, Indiana Jones). Let's be honest, I doubt there will be a way to ramp up the action or the stakes in the upcoming sequel. They gave us time travel, uber-weapons and planetary destruction in the first one. Will a film forced to focus more on the characters and less on the eye-candy be as successful? Will a film with less "bang" stand out in a crowd against either The Hobbit or The Dark Knight Rises?

Where the Star Trek sequel is placed on the schedule will be every-bit as important as the quality of the film. Put it in the wrong spot and it will get lost quickly against the more mainstream competition.

Does the train-wreck that was Transformers 2 do as well if its' competing against The Dark Knight? I think it's an example of a poor film put in a perfect spot to succeed.

#1 "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" ($112 million)
#2 "The Proposal" ($18.5 million)
#3 "The Hangover" ($17.2 million)
#4 "Up" ($13 million)
#5 "My Sister's Keeper" ($12 million)

Here. It had very little competition for action dollars in its first few weeks of release.
 
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Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men may have been awful but they're still franchises that should draw the money.

I don't know about Angels and Demons but Terminator and X-men were both huge disappointments. X-men got rebooted with 1st class and Terminator is also going to be rebooted. I haven't heard any movie deals for "Lost Symbol" so A&D may not have done well.

People seem to under estimate the fanbase and appeal of Star Trek once again.
If ST was as strong as you think, it wouldn't need to be rebooted, processed,homogenized and made public friendly. ST is just a brand name now for summer blockbuster franchise but I don't think it's that strong of a brand. First the whole geek wave is dying down. People are becoming less interested in Sci-Fi in general. Second to succeed JJ Abrams had to deliver a movie better than the first. Everything I've seen from him shows that he may get you interested but he can't sustain that interest. Third 2012 is election season and it's probably going to be the ugliest and loudest election in a generation. Fourth one word AVENGERS. Three more words "by Joss Whedon".

Oh and then there is this little independent film called SUPERMAN.

Holiday 2012 sounds like a good idea.

Lot's of franchises need a rest and lite reboot, the money Trek made indicates it is still very much alive and popular. Trek just needed a rest, everything that was being produced was garbage (Enterprise, Ins, Nem)...and didn't appeal to the general audience, let alone the fanbase.

Joss Whedon? Has he ever produced anything successful in theaters?
 
Terminator, Angels + Demons and X-Men may have been awful but they're still franchises that should draw the money.

I don't know about Angels and Demons but Terminator and X-men were both huge disappointments. X-men got rebooted with 1st class and Terminator is also going to be rebooted. I haven't heard any movie deals for "Lost Symbol" so A&D may not have done well.

People seem to under estimate the fanbase and appeal of Star Trek once again.
If ST was as strong as you think, it wouldn't need to be rebooted, processed,homogenized and made public friendly. ST is just a brand name now for summer blockbuster franchise but I don't think it's that strong of a brand. First the whole geek wave is dying down. People are becoming less interested in Sci-Fi in general. Second to succeed JJ Abrams had to deliver a movie better than the first. Everything I've seen from him shows that he may get you interested but he can't sustain that interest. Third 2012 is election season and it's probably going to be the ugliest and loudest election in a generation. Fourth one word AVENGERS. Three more words "by Joss Whedon".

Oh and then there is this little independent film called SUPERMAN.

Holiday 2012 sounds like a good idea.

Lot's of franchises need a rest and lite reboot, the money Trek made indicates it is still very much alive and popular. Trek just needed a rest, everything that was being produced was garbage (Enterprise, Ins, Nem)...and didn't appeal to the general audience, let alone the fanbase.

Joss Whedon? Has he ever produced anything successful in theaters?

He's been the writer on a bunch of successful projects, but Avengers will be the only the second film he's directed.

In any case, Avengers will do huge numbers because it's the Avengers, and Marvel has done the pitch-perfect job in building that franchise up with three very successful films, and one moderately successful film. Joss Whedon's name will only excite his fanbase.
 
Oh god, let us hope not. If so, this new cast will be as old as the original cast was in Generations when Star Trek XII comes out.
 
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