DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

[Agent Richard07]

What happened in Catwoman?

Joker kidnaps Catwoman and just does crazy things to her while pontificating about nonsense. (And not even the usual general insanity nonsense he usually goes on about.) He takes her to the stock Abandoned Amusement Park and puts her in one of those barrel rides (you know, the ones that pin you on the wall using centripetal force and then lower the floor) but he's supercharged it supposedly to the point where it'll liquefy her. It doesn't though, he apparently stops it after it's shredder her clothes off (sans underwear) and she passes out.

When she comes to he rambles on about bullshit some more and offers her a new uniform. this one laced with a paralytic or something in it that causes her to be unable to move so he sort of treats her like a doll... or something. Eventually he gives her the antidote and offers to spare Batman's life he she marries him, she refuses. He pretty much says, "Meh, wattayagonnado?" and leaves, again taunting her a bit with the death of her friend in an earlier storyline.

It was overall just... odd. I mean you expect some level of insanity with The Joker, sure, but this was just out there, man. And it wasn't even for fan-service or anything it was almost out of character or something.

Thanks for the detailed outline. That doesn't sound like anything I need to go back a read.

 

[Mike Farley]

Although there is an interesting nugget in there. Joker trying to get Catwoman to marry him, just like he did to Batgirl a few weeks ago.

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

^Actually, no. The Joker asked Catwoman to marry Batman.

Told ya it was weird.

 

[Mike Farley]

The problem with The Joker is that too many writers think that it's enough to throw in random weird shit and that equals crazy.

I'm pretty glad my Bat-books are down to BATMAN and BATGIRL these days.

 

[Derishton]

I'm hearing enough good things about this Joker story, and Snyder is a pretty good writer, that I will probably end up getting getting the trade of this. But it's a sure sell ONLY if there's a Joker vs Gaucho one shot.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I'm just following "The Death of the Family" story in "Batman". That's good enough for me.

 

[theenglish]

What happened in Catwoman?

Joker kidnaps Catwoman and just does crazy things to her while pontificating about nonsense. (And not even the usual general insanity nonsense he usually goes on about.) He takes her to the stock Abandoned Amusement Park and puts her in one of those barrel rides (you know, the ones that pin you on the wall using centripetal force and then lower the floor) but he's supercharged it supposedly to the point where it'll liquefy her. It doesn't though, he apparently stops it after it's shredder her clothes off (sans underwear) and she passes out.

When she comes to he rambles on about bullshit some more and offers her a new uniform. this one laced with a paralytic or something in it that causes her to be unable to move so he sort of treats her like a doll... or something. Eventually he gives her the antidote and offers to spare Batman's life he she marries him, she refuses. He pretty much says, "Meh, wattayagonnado?" and leaves, again taunting her a bit with the death of her friend in an earlier storyline.

It was overall just... odd. I mean you expect some level of insanity with The Joker, sure, but this was just out there, man. And it wasn't even for fan-service or anything it was almost out of character or something.

Thanks for the detailed outline. That doesn't sound like anything I need to go back a read.

Exactly--the problem with Catwoman is not only is it sexist, it has completely demeaned the character to the point where she is nothing. It has undone any of the greatness of the previous book she had. What's more, the just sounds like weird softcore bondage crap.

 

[Nerys Myk]

What happened in Catwoman?

Ann Nocenti happened. Possibly the worst writer in comics.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I dropped Catwoman pretty early on because she was becoming like some crazy repulsive cat lady, but I got issue #0 and it was pretty good. It showed us some of her pained background.

 

[Hound of UIster]

What happened in Catwoman?

Ann Nocenti happened. Possibly the worst writer in comics.

Goes nicely with the worst editor in chief that DC hired.

 

[ToddKent]

Am I the only one who is getting exhausted from the, shall we say, "ambitious" panel layout in Batwoman?

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

The problem with The Joker is that too many writers think that it's enough to throw in random weird shit and that equals crazy.

I'm pretty glad my Bat-books are down to BATMAN and BATGIRL these days.

I'm still reading Batman and Robin, but that's almost certainly getting dropped after Death of the Family. Other than that it's just Batman, Batgirl, and Nightwing for me. I've heard that Detective Comics has really made a turnaround, though.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I've dropped "Batman and Robin". It's been too inconsistent for me and I really don't like Tomasi's writing or what he's done with Damian, doesn't feel very progressive at all IMO after the work that Dick did with him in Morrison's run. I've been down to just "Batman" and "Batman Incorporated" for quite some time now.

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

I think Tomasi writes a great Green Lantern Corps. If I had my way, he would write Guy Gardner until the end of time. He's one of the few writers that actually gets him. His Batman has been really inconsistent, though. The first arc was strong, but it's just floundered since then. The only real highlight being the one panel that my avatar is from.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I'm generally a Marvel guy, but the Death of the Family crossover has intrigued me enough to try it out. I decided on getting the main Batman book along with Nightwing, Batgirl and the single issue of Catwoman. (I'm glad that Catwoman was only the single issue. Peee-Yuu!)

I've no interest in The Teen Titans, Red Hood and the Outlaws or Suicide Squad, so I'll be skipping those. I was thinking of picking up Batman and Robin, but the comments here are making me reconsider. Detective will be part of the story, correct? Does anybody know what that book's "hook" to the larger story will be about? All of the other books feature sidekicks and allies, but I'm not sure what Detective is bringing to the table.

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

From what I gather, Detective will focus on the Penguin. The Joker seems to have a special place for him in his plan.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Finally dropped Firestorm, but I got lots of other stuff.

Ame-Comi Girls #1 and #2: DC is putting out a series based on a line of collectable figures that feature various female superheroes. I had to have 'em.

Aquaman #14: I wanted to give up this title, but it's been so well written lately that I have to continue for now.

Arrow #1: Decided to check this out because it's based on my favorite new show of the season.

Before Watchmen: Ozymandias #4

Before Watchmen: Silk Spectre #4: Got this variant cover…

Justice League Dark #14: This is my favorite title right now.

Non-DC title… Adventures of a Comic Con Girl #3

 

[theenglish]

I buy my comics a month later because I buy them digitally. Just read JL14. Wow, if the first year had been written like this, it would easily be the coolest series of the new 52 now. The origin story would have been a decent four issues, the making of the villain would have ended around issue 8 and we still would have had more character development than in the last year.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Batman Incorporated #5.

At this point, I have no idea if this takes place in the Nu52. And I don't really care. I just want to see Morrison reach the ending of his grand Batman saga, end it the way he wants to, and if it doesn't like up with what everyone else is doing, then so be it.

As awesome as this issue was (and it was awesome -- I loved the way Morrison conveyed Bruce's relationships with Jason and Damian), it also feels like we're nearing the end, that Morrison is pulling his toys off the table and putting them away.

Also, this Leviathan saga is starting to feel like "Court of Owls" and "Death of the Family" all rolled into one -- an enemy from the shadows is striking out at Bruce on a personal level, and an enemy is hitting at Batman by attacking his allies. Coincidence or a larger plan? I'm not sure.

 

[theenglish]

Batman Incorporated #5.

At this point, I have no idea if this takes place in the Nu52. And I don't really care. I just want to see Morrison reach the ending of his grand Batman saga, end it the way he wants to, and if it doesn't like up with what everyone else is doing, then so be it.

As awesome as this issue was (and it was awesome -- I loved the way Morrison conveyed Bruce's relationships with Jason and Damian), it also feels like we're nearing the end, that Morrison is pulling his toys off the table and putting them away.

Also, this Leviathan saga is starting to feel like "Court of Owls" and "Death of the Family" all rolled into one -- an enemy from the shadows is striking out at Bruce on a personal level, and an enemy is hitting at Batman by attacking his allies. Coincidence or a larger plan? I'm not sure.

This will all end as Talia's dream.