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DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

I just read
Justice League Dark #2 - Good read, real curious to see where this first arc is headed. Zatanna could've passed as Catwoman in all that black and riding that crotch rocket. The issue was lacking on more players in the book for my taste but I feel like that's going to change next issue.

I,Vampire #2 - Played like it was overlapping with issue 1 for the first few pages. I like the art in this and am still feeling it out. It's just decent enough for me to continue with the first arc.

I'm on the fence about I, Vampire, but I think Justice League Dark has been great so far. I don't mind a slow introduction (presumably written partially for the trade) and am more than happy to support the title by buying the digitals. Does anyone else thing the Enchantress looks like a bit of Bolland art thrust into the title's otherwise-different style? It's really effective as a way of suggesting how she's unnatural and off-kilter.
 
Catwoman #1 and #2: Batman and Catwoman get it on while still in costume. Never seen anything like that before and I got a real kick out of it. I read that "10 Things We Don't Like" article and I don't know what the big deal is about the sex. It was well done and pretty tame. If it were any more subtle, it wouldn't be worth including.

Well, I didn't read it ($3 is almost a pack of cigarettes, and I've literally got a thousand comics I haven't yet read), so I can't really give my own personal take, but what it seemed to be--and from review pages did appear to be the case--was that the fucking at the end was just the icing on an objectification cake, and worse than that seemed to mirror earlier scenes where Kyle used sex as a weapon, or more technically a physical and psychological shield against someone she had previously known, and who had engaged in sexualized violence against other women she knew, if not her specifically.

Now, I can see how this could bother people. Sometimes women, when threatened, will try to seduce/fuck their way out of a situation. This is a valid thing to depict, since it happens in real life, like, literally all the time. Especially if the character's backstory is that of a street prostitute whose income and career were controlled by violent and domineering men. And you could even have the ending as is if the tone of the book was different. So what's unpleasant about it is that it doesn't really seem to be aware of any of it, or is aware and doesn't care, and tries to have its cheesecake and eat it too. I think for some people it's very difficult to square the constant set-of-ass-and-tits framing of the protagonist with a serious-minded I Spit On Your Grave-lite revenge trip, and a Tijuana Bible stapled to the end of the book only raises further questions about motivation and psychology, which Judd Winnick is neither interested in nor, one fears, capable of answering. Like, does the meagre validation of anonymous sex make you feel better after a straight-up murder? I suppose it's possible. Next time I kill a guy I'll have to try it.

Tl;dr version: Winnick brings up Serious Business, and him and March treat it with all the dignity of an Austin Powers movie.

Like I said, though, this is a synthesis of others' opinions, not my own close read of the issue (but I've seen enough to know these opinions are supported). But if that was a genuine confusion, maybe I helped? Maybe not.
 
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Most of Rich's articles are like that. I don't think he really cares about proper structure or grammar or any of those things. He just gets the story out.


Gen 13 would be cool. I still don't think the "Red" has been named in "Superboy" or "Teen Titans" yet. Lobdell just needs to come out and call her Dr. Fairchild.
 
Someone pointed out in the previous thread we had when he broke the story in the first place that he did so because he didn't sign any waivers like the other sites did and because he doesn't like DC. If you read most of his articles compared to his Marvel ones, there is a telling difference.
 
Someone pointed out in the previous thread we had when he broke the story in the first place that he did so because he didn't sign any waivers like the other sites did and because he doesn't like DC. If you read most of his articles compared to his Marvel ones, there is a telling difference.


It goes a bit further than that - most of the other major sites are basically into churnalism, they don't print much that will upset DC or Marvel - if they do, then access to exclusives and creators is cut off. That's why there is so much soft-soap and toeing the corporate line.

A lot of the sites were very pissed off with Bleeding Cool around the time of the Nu52 because they had articles lined up but they had agreed not to publish them until DC approved it - then Johnson leaks it all and they are left playing catch-up.

As for "He prefers X over Y" - I notice that people who are fans of one company (A odd concept in itself) over the other always complain that he's is biased but he seems to shit on both sides equally from what I can tell.
 
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