DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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Given the utter randomness with which the DCEU has progressed, I don't see any inherent reason we wouldn't...
I thought that Stewart and Spiner were demanding more input in the script, but maybe I am wrong and it was with Nemesis.
The reason they're making this movie is because Suicide Squad was a big box office hit, and her Harley Quinn was the most popular character of the lot (to the point of being the most popular Halloween costume in 2016).
Let's face it, after that if she wanted a solo movie that's all about her, they would have gladly given it to her. Instead she pitched an ensemble movie about other women, and went out of her way to make sure women got the chance to be in creative positions behind the camera, both in writing and directing.
She used her position of popularity and the little power she had to effect real change in how Hollywood usually goes about making these movies, and to give opportunities to other women to showcase their talents, which in my book is a pretty friggin great thing to do. If there's any "vanity" there I sure as heck can't see it.
Good to hear.
Indeed. That shows great sense of camaraderie and selflessness that is rare in Hollywood.The reason they're making this movie is because Suicide Squad was a big box office hit, and her Harley Quinn was the most popular character of the lot (to the point of being the most popular Halloween costume in 2016).
Let's face it, after that if she wanted a solo movie that's all about her, they would have gladly given it to her. Instead she pitched an ensemble movie about other women, and went out of her way to make sure women got the chance to be in creative positions behind the camera, both in writing and directing.
She used her position of popularity and the little power she had to effect real change in how Hollywood usually goes about making these movies, and to give opportunities to other women to showcase their talents, which in my book is a pretty friggin great thing to do. If there's any "vanity" there I sure as heck can't see it.
Also, let's also be real that Warner Brothers and the DC films are not going to adhere to anything "real" from the comics if it doesn't serve the story they want to tell. They are adaptations in to another art form and are under zero obligation to indulge every facet of the comic book character. Any more than a modern telling of Shakespeare must adhere to all the conventions of the period.
It truly baffles my mind at the need to disparage DC for getting characters "wrong" when they are literally about adapting the characters in to a different format. What works in a comic doesn't translate always to the screen and vice versa.
ETA: Adding to my baffled state of mind is the lack of understanding of how DC is personally insulting people by making changes. Just because something is changed doesn't make it "ruined." It might not be to particular taste, kind of like pizza, but it is still pizza.
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Indeed, DC has reinvented its own characters and continuity so many times over the past 8 decades that it displays a truly staggering ignorance to insist there's only one "right" way of portraying a DC character.
Guys, don't take anything that kirk5555 says seriously.
It's too confusing to take seriously.
I understand the encouragement that Harley might be headed towards emancipation from Mistah J, but I really see no reason to have been disappointed in how she was depicted in Suicide Squad. Suicide Squad was Harley's first live-action appearance. She hadn't "remained" in anything. As far as the live-action continuity is concerned, in a relationship with the Joker is where she began, just as it's where she began in B:TAS. Why have any expectation that the character should spring into existence far along her character arc? To do so would deprive us of the opportunity to see the interpretation of that whole arc in live-action right out of the gate.
Speaking of Suicide Squad, in a series of tweets [(1) (2) (3)] David Ayer recently revealed that the original plot of the movie was about the Enchantress being controlled by a Mother Box into opening a boom tube to let Steppenwolf in who was supposed to be the boss fight, and those monster thingies were supposed to be Parademons, which certainly explains the swirly thing in the sky aesthetic of it...
That would've made so much more sense -- have Suicide Squad feature Steppenwolf as the teaser for Darkseid as the villain in Justice League.
I think I would have liked that much better than what we got.
Thirded, fourthed, fifthed, or whatever.
It's sorta like the GL movie. Sinestro was set up as the villain for a sequel that will never get made.
You don't save the good bits for a later that's never going to come.
It's sorta like the GL movie. Sinestro was set up as the villain for a sequel that will never get made.
You don't save the good bits for a later that's never going to come.
Marvel has more or less done the same. None of the comic book movies, regardless of the franchise, have been truly faithful to its comic book origins. And even the comic books themselves change the story lines every once in a while.
Steppenwolf as the main villain of "Suicide Squad"? God, what a dumb idea. It's a good thing David Ayer changed it. It just would not have worked, as far as I'm concerned. It would have ruined the theme of the movie's plot. And the Enchantress made a better contrast to Amanda Waller than Steppenwolf would have.
I think they expected SS to be a much smaller movie than it ended up being, and they wanted to use Steppenwolf as the lead-up to Darkseid in a movie that lots of people would see.
In a twist, SS ended up making more money than JL.