But that's not the in-story logic behind Batman. The core idea is that Batman presents himself in a way that's only terrifying to those with guilty consciences, to those who fear retribution for their own wrongdoing. Also, that "criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot," that they're dumb enough to believe Batman might be a demonic figure out to punish them for their evils, while law-abiding people are likely to be better-educated and not as prone to superstitious dread.
The Nolan films got this right. Batman's first big action scene was played from the perspective of the mobsters, and Batman was treated as a horror movie monster, a vaguely glimpsed figure striking out of nowhere. He was terrifying to the mobsters because he was coming after them in a way they couldn't see or defend against. But the good people of Gotham saw him as a symbol of hope, someone who would protect them from the people who preyed upon them.
It's not that random. There are some elements you can change without losing the essence of the character, but there are other elements that are key to that essence and need to be preserved in order for it to be a valid interpretation of the character. You can redesign the chassis or the seats or the dashboard of a car and it'll still be a car, but if you replace the engine with a kiddie pool or the wheels with wooden crates, then it's not gonna work. I mean, Sherlock Holmes in present-day New York is still Sherlock Holmes, but a dimwitted Victorian gentleman in a deerstalker hat is not Sherlock Holmes. Some changes are variations on a theme; others are just missing the point.
Okay, I'll take your word for that. I found the execution staggeringly incompetent, but if the intent was that that wasn't the right way for Batman to be, then I'll grant that it wasn't missing the point.
But the good people of Gotham didn't ALL see him as this symbol of hope that protected them. There were people who thought he was as much a criminal as the people he was fighting. The concept of the Batman being universally seen as amazing EXCEPT by those he fought against is false.
Don’t be ridiculous. You know what I mean. I wouldn’t want to do crime in Gotham with him about
The concept of the Batman being universally seen as amazing EXCEPT by those he fought against is false.
I was saying that if a storyteller chose to portray Batman as terrifying to everyone, civilians and criminals alike, that was a misunderstanding of the character.
True, but it only takes a glance at Batman published history to see that the character--at his best--was not the "people's champion" like some manufactured politician, Mighty Mouse, or the one found in the Super Friends adaptation. The argument that he was seen in some broad, positive light to all except criminals is--frankly--self-deceiving nonsense.
According to who? Where is it literally stated that that is the only correct way to portray this character? That was my point. He has been portrayed in both comics AND other media in different ways. According to you, he must be that way, because that is the interpretation of the character you enjoy the most and feel the most connected to. There is no written rule that he MUST always be like that.
I have no interest in continuing this argument.
Don’t be ridiculous. You know what I mean. I wouldn’t want to do crime in Gotham with him about
Looks kinda like the one from the 1990 TV series.Andy Muschietti has shared a look at Central City
https://www.instagram.com/p/CnK_WlquL-N/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
That's basically what I'm saying, yes.
This is the struggle with interpreting any character or adapting them to a different medium.According to who? Where is it literally stated that that is the only correct way to portray this character? That was my point. He has been portrayed in both comics AND other media in different ways. According to you, he must be that way, because that is the interpretation of the character you enjoy the most and feel the most connected to. There is no written rule that he MUST always be like that.
He’s going to lose the Royal Rumble?Dwayne Johnson talks about having “the guts to fail.” No prizes for guessing what he’s alluding thttps://twitter.com/therock/status/1611082723635912716?s=46&t=6eMvOBPbfpFlCs-sCEivhwo
Which was inspired from the look of Batman’89.Looks kinda like the one from the 1990 TV series.
Which was inspired from the look of Batman’89.
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