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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

Having talked to Vietnam veterans in a group I know they made inappropriate jokes during combat.

I know people who make jokes at funerals..

Look, I get it. Not everyone has the same sense of humor. I doubt that these comic book films are realistic. But, the sense of humor is one that I find the most odd.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
Nope. But please, tell us how Myrlie Evers quipped as she saw her bloody husband crawl to their door with a gaping bullet hole in his back. Or tell us how Roger Bushell was a-jokin' his butt off before the Gestapo executed him. You won't. Again, real history has endless examples that counter what is a poor defense of certain comic book movies injecting humor where it did not belong.
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How about I tell you how George Appel said "Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." before they gave him the chair?

How about when James French said "How about this for a headline for tomorrow's paper? French Fries." when he got the chair?

"Black Jack" Ketchum, hanged in New Mexico Territory, 1899. "Hurry up! I'm due in Hell for dinner!"

George Harrison had coincidentally hired new groundskeepers about a week before a crazed fan broke into his house and stabbed him nearly to death. As he was being taken away by paramedics, with stab wounds in his chest and a punctured lung, he reportedly looked up at the new groundskeepers and asked: "So how do you like the job so far?"

When Ronald Reagan got shot his first words to his wife were "Honey, I forgot to duck." And when the surgeons were about to operate on him to remove the bullets, he told them "I hope you're all Republicans." A doctor (who was a Democrat) replied: "Today, Mr. President, we're all Republicans."

Alex Trebek, when he got his diagnosis: And with the love and support of my family and friends, and with the help of your prayers, also, I plan to beat the low survival rate statistics for this disease. Truth told, I have to. Because under the terms of my contract, I have to host Jeopardy for three more years.

Your dull as dishwater views on how life is don't add up to the reality of things.
 
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TREK_GOD_1 said:
That's the difference between a strong superhero film coming off with a serious believable feel, and others, where its constantly stepping out of its own narrative with overt crap the characters should not do during the most serious of situations.
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Fuck believability and fuck real history, that's not what I go to super hero movies for. I go to see guys and girls in brightly colored costumes beat the crap out of over the top bad guys.
IGN has posted an old interview with Tim Burton from around the time his first Batman movie came out, the one thing I thought was the most interesting was that he purposefully went for someone more average looking for his Batman. His thought process was that if he was already your usual, buff, six foot tall, good looking hero he wouldn't need to be Batman.
 
JD said:
His thought process was that if he was already your usual, buff, six foot tall, good looking hero he wouldn't need to be Batman.
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I don't follow that logic. "Criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot, so I must wear a disguise that will strike terror into their hearts! That's it! I shall become -- a matinee idol!"

But then, I never thought that the character Burton created bore any resemblance to Batman, and I'm not talking about appearance.
 
JD said:
Fuck believability and fuck real history, that's not what I go to super hero movies for. I go to see guys and girls in brightly colored costumes beat the crap out of over the top bad guys.
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I think that's also narrow minded. Superhero movies span a wide range of genres and film-making type and they are all as valid as the other. To me, the most important thing is inner world consistency. The movies need to set some rules and then keep following them. To me, the MCU kind of stepped away from that with their handling of Thor. In the first Avengers he seemed in danger falling from 36,000 feet. In Endgame he survived getting hit with the full power of a star...
 
Sure, they can be different things, and there are great grounded superhero movies, like the Dark Knight trilogy, which is one of my all time favorite movie trilogies, but I'm not going to demand that every movie takes that approach.
 
crookeddy said:
I think that's also narrow minded. Superhero movies span a wide range of genres and film-making type and they are all as valid as the other. To me, the most important thing is inner world consistency. The movies need to set some rules and then keep following them. To me, the MCU kind of stepped away from that with their handling of Thor. In the first Avengers he seemed in danger falling from 36,000 feet. In Endgame he survived getting hit with the full power of a star...
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Sorry but that's exactly how the comics (both DC and Marvel .et al) have been for the most part. The relative power level of the Hero depends on the need of the story or the situation, and often changes.
 
Noname Given said:
Sorry but that's exactly how the comics (both DC and Marvel .et al) have been for the most part. The relative power level of the Hero depends on the need of the story or the situation, and often changes.
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Good for comics. We're talking about movies here.
 
crookeddy said:
To me, the MCU kind of stepped away from that with their handling of Thor. In the first Avengers he seemed in danger falling from 36,000 feet. In Endgame he survived getting hit with the full power of a star...
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It was a plot point that he would get more powerful over time, though.
 
Noname Given said:
That are supposed to be closer to the comics than any 'comics films' done previously. That's one reason they're so popular to a wide variety of comic book fans (both DC and Marvel).
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Heck, I remember years ago I asked a guy why he was so pissed at the MCU's way of doing things and he said it was because "I want to go to a theater to see a movie. A story. Not something that sets up something else."

As in, he was pissed that there were any story hooks for future installments of anything else and he wanted it more or less 100% standalone.
 
Anwar said:
Heck, I remember years ago I asked a guy why he was so pissed at the MCU's way of doing things and he said it was because "I want to go to a theater to see a movie. A story. Not something that sets up something else."

As in, he was pissed that there were any story hooks for future installments of anything else and he wanted it more or less 100% standalone.
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Valid concern, though I'm personally ok with movies turning into tv shows.
 
I would rather the films feel a bit more standalone. I mean, I knew Avengers would be the beginning of something but I can watch it and not concern myself with any other film.

There is a lot of benefit in having that ability to watch a movie without concern that it is going to set up a franchise.
 
fireproof78 said:
I would rather the films feel a bit more standalone. I mean, I knew Avengers would be the beginning of something but I can watch it and not concern myself with any other film.

There is a lot of benefit in having that ability to watch a movie without concern that it is going to set up a franchise.
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A lot of Phase 1 was pretty standalone, they even wrote Avengers so we didn't necessarily HAVE to have seen the priors except maybe the first 2 Iron Man movies.

After that....well, they were upfront about how connected everything was going to be. So we all knew what we were getting into.
 
Anwar said:
A lot of Phase 1 was pretty standalone, they even wrote Avengers so we didn't necessarily HAVE to have seen the priors except maybe the first 2 Iron Man movies.

After that....well, they were upfront about how connected everything was going to be. So we all knew what we were getting into.
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Yes, which is why I pretty much lost interest,
 
I do know that I tend to avoid watching random DS9 reruns when they pop up on TV because I'm not sure where I'll be in the story but give TOS/TNG episodes a shot from time to time. Not as big of an issue with streaming necessarily.
 
JD said:
Fuck believability and fuck real history, that's not what I go to super hero movies for.
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Then go see a comedy. The best superhero films are not played as light romps / comedies, because their very nature dictates that they are not.

IGN has posted an old interview with Tim Burton from around the time his first Batman movie came out, the one thing I thought was the most interesting was that he purposefully went for someone more average looking for his Batman. His thought process was that if he was already your usual, buff, six foot tall, good looking hero he wouldn't need to be Batman.
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Tim Burton has image issues he often injects into his films; in 1989, NBC interviewed him in advance of Batman's release and he said he cast Keaton because he did not want (in his words) "A square-jawed hero" and that he thought Batman should be more of a (again, in his words) "techno-geek." Burton's obvious hang-ups about the image of a strong, visually appealing male hero archetype (which is who Bruce Wayne/Batman is) is the reason he cast a short, balding, out of shape comedic actor as what was one of the worst miscastings in film history. Its the same reason he wanted to use Nicholas Cage as Superman--an actor who is the complete visual opposite of any version of the character. Burton's constant goal with superheroes was subverting that which he does not like--the strong, visually appealing male hero archetype. Thankfully, the two greatest examples of Batman casting happened in this century, showing the film-going world how a live action Batman and Bruce Wayne should appear.

crookeddy said:
I think that's also narrow minded. Superhero movies span a wide range of genres and film-making type and they are all as valid as the other. To me, the most important thing is inner world consistency. The movies need to set some rules and then keep following them. To me, the MCU kind of stepped away from that with their handling of Thor. In the first Avengers he seemed in danger falling from 36,000 feet. In Endgame he survived getting hit with the full power of a star...
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Agreed; Thor's abilities and durability wildly changed from film to film with no explanation, much like the Hulk, who had a far different power level in the 2008 Hulk film than Infinity War, where many a fan complained he was "nerfed" for questionable reasons.
 
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