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DC Comics: Rebirth

I have to admit, I'm really starting to look forward to these kind announcements, just because I know @kirk55555's reactions will be hilarious.

I'm glad DC ruining almost everything I ever loved about their universe brings you joy. Most people would be less open about their sadism. I don't personally get enjoyment over characters and their fans getting fucked over.

Anyway, we got to see some of the new Legion designs

https://www.cbr.com/legion-of-super-heroes-first-look-at-ryan-sooks-character-designs/

They are all fucking space millenials, because Bendis is an old white man who totally knows how the young folk think :barf2: For fucks sake, "Lightning Lad" has a Mohawk mixed with a mullet. The fucking 1980s never had a haircut that was this bad, and the 1980s had really shitty hair styles.

Also, that piece of shit Bendis bringing up The Great Darkness Saga is sickening. He doesn't have 1/1000th the writing ability of in his prime Paul Levitz, and Bendis shouldn't mention that story in the same breath as his crap.
 
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So, Bendis completely ruined Superman and pretty much everything connected to him, and now he's coming for my second favorite superhero team, the Legion of Superheroes (and its another pointless fucking reboot). At this point, none of my favorite DC things are left. Seriously, looking at my favorite DC heroes

1. Captain Marvel (DC Comics) - ruined by Geoff Johns, now a fairly evil shithead (the movie modified this "Shazam" a lot, but in the comics he's still terrible and even the good "Shazam" from the movie still pails to the original Captain Marvel.

2. Power Girl - The New 52 turned her into a stereotypical "dumb blonde" who partied and literally banged everyone (especially when they could give her things), until the Earth 2 comics switched that for a (better?) incarnation that is just a bland angry woman who basically did nothing but argue with/pine for the New 52 Earth 2 new Superman.

3. Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) - She is mostly just a body that artists draw in the background of shots where they need a bigger "Bat Family", and they call her Orphan even though Scott Snyder of all people had a better name/look for the post-Batgirl cassandra (Black Bat)

4. Oracle (Barbara Gordon) - Turned back into Batgirl (which I think literally no one wanted except Dan Didio), then de-aged to 15 going on 21 (she's drawn like a middle schooler but drinks like a frat boy).

5. Batman (Bruce Wayne) - Whiny, emotional emo who can't marry Catwoman because, much like Captain kirk in Star Trek V, he apparently needs his pain or he can't be a vigilante because...reasons. Also, the Court of Owls makes him cry, and there are three Jokers because...Scott Snyder is a moron. This post could go on forever, but I'll cut it off here.

6. Wonder Woman - The DC Rebirth WW is better then the New 52 version (she's not a god and now canonically never dated Superman, thank god), but she's bland as hell and her comic is mediocre.

7. Zatanna - Spent the New 52 as nothing but a love interest of Constantine who learned literally everything from him (because a woman needs a man to make her great apparently, according to DC comics New 52, and someone at DC desperately loves john Constantine), instead of being a strong character who could kick Constantine's ass from a magic perspective. After DC rebirth, she's just a bland magic user, not as connected to Constantine but not particularly interesting.

8. Green Lantern (Jessica Cruz) - got her great comic cancelled for literally no other reason then DC didn't want competition for Grant Morrison's shitty Hal Jordan comic.

9. Superman - Bendis tried to rewrite the DC rebirth Superman by eliminating Lois and Jon completely, and when that didn't work he basically just replaced Superman's kid and continued writing possibly the worst comic of his career.

10. Batwoman - DC fired her writers because Bat Family members can't be happy, and now in the current comics she's a psychotic murderer who helps her military facist father (seriously, he tried to massacre Batman/the bat family with a group of military style thugs and take over Gotham, and that's where she is now).

That's not even mentioning my favorite DC teams, with the JSA and Legion being completely destroyed and the Birds of Prey name stolen for a shitty New 52 book that had no connection to the actually good BoP, or characters like Harley Quinn who is now literally nothing but Deadpool with different parts between her legs.

At this point, the only things DC is producing that I still read are Justice League Dark, Flash, and Supergirl. On balance, taken at their peak, while I love both DC and Marvel I am more of a fan of the DC universe. But, with how the companies are now, both aren't doing great but Marvel is still managing to do slightly less worse with its comics while DC is sliding back into the Neww 52 style (because they will never escape the grimdark bullshit until Didio and harras are gone).

Wait, what did they do to Rebirth Superman?? I thought that was the one thing they got really RIGHT, added dimension to Clark's character, and went *way* out of their way to editorially get rid of Nu52 Supes and restore the proper status quo. They spent dozens of issues setting it all up. WTF happened??? Did they really just go and ruin Clark and Wally again after going through HUGE hurdles to get them back? What IS the explanation for the 3 Jokers, how did that actually play out? Did they do ANYTHING worthwhile with the Watchmen bit? It seemed like everything was pointed in a great direction a couple years ago. The Hell happened?
 
Wait, what did they do to Rebirth Superman?? I thought that was the one thing they got really RIGHT, added dimension to Clark's character, and went *way* out of their way to editorially get rid of Nu52 Supes and restore the proper status quo. They spent dozens of issues setting it all up. WTF happened??? Did they really just go and ruin Clark and Wally again after going through HUGE hurdles to get them back? What IS the explanation for the 3 Jokers, how did that actually play out? Did they do ANYTHING worthwhile with the Watchmen bit? It seemed like everything was pointed in a great direction a couple years ago. The Hell happened?

To be fair, the original writer(s) of Rebirth Superman did a good job. Then Bendis came in, and decided he wanted to write his own Superman so he basically did everything but explicitly retcon the entire Rebirth run that came before him. He got rid of Lois and Jon (he sent them off to space for literally no reason), and when forced to bring them back he magically aged Jon up to a teenager...because.

As for Joker, Scott Snyder is the single worst writer of Joker, ever. Having three Joker's is asinine and makes no sense from a continuity standpoint, as far as I can tell he only did it to justify the Joker removing his own face but then looking completely normal a few months later. We've never gotten a real explanation of the Jokers, or how Batman, the world's greatest detective, never knew there were three of them until he sat in information chair of a New God. Also, apparently Harley Quinn didn't know she was in love with three different people, but I don't think they've ever brought that up.

Such things bring all of us joy Kirk.

Yeah, this forum is filled with people that hate comic books, and love when they're destroyed because of some preverse desire to see the entire medium collapse. Some people just like shitting on things that other people enjoy. Those people should probably be seeing psychiatrists to work out their issues (and I say that as someone who has a very low opinion on that branch of "medicine").

Your "second favorite superhero team," and you can't even spell it correctly. It's Legion of Super-Heroes. :)

I don't care to use the hyphen. No one hyphenates the word "superhero" in general, so I'm not going to do it just for the title. Also, it must hurt to be so pedantic.
 
I'm glad DC ruining almost everything I ever loved about their universe brings you joy. Most people would be less open about their sadism. I don't personally get enjoyment over characters and their fans getting fucked over.

Anyway, we got to see some of the new Legion designs
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It's not what they're doing that I enjoy, it's your over the top reactions.
 
I have a question--

Are there any plans to visit some of the old Earths from the original multiverse?

I believe the last time they did it was Convergence, though I didn't read it. As I recall, they basically brought back every Earth that ever existed. I'd love to see some sort of story that deals with these Earths, as they used to be the prime Earth.
 
I don't care to use the hyphen. No one hyphenates the word "superhero" in general, so I'm not going to do it just for the title.

DC hyphenates it. "No one" is literally incorrect. Justify your laziness all you want, but at the end of the day, kirk55555, you're wrong. Stand there in your wrongness.

Also, it must hurt to be so pedantic.

I'm a copy-editor, among the many hats I wear at the office. Pedantry pays my bills.
 
I have a question--

Are there any plans to visit some of the old Earths from the original multiverse?

I believe the last time they did it was Convergence, though I didn't read it. As I recall, they basically brought back every Earth that ever existed. I'd love to see some sort of story that deals with these Earths, as they used to be the prime Earth.
The latest issue of Doomsday Clock introduced the concept of the Metaverse, meaning the prime Earth the majority DC Comics are set on at any given time has always been the same universe, but repeatedly changed from the outside (like 1986, it was changed by the Anti-Monitor, 2011 it was changed by Dr Manhattan), and all the other universes shape themselves around this one Metaverse.

Therefore, the old Earths simply don't exist anymore. But "Justice League" delves into the Multiverse in the coming months, and the old school JSA has already been announced for #31 out in September.
 
Is it safe to talk about the ending of "Heroes in Crisis" yet? Because there's been a new mini-series announced that deals with the fallout for a specific character.
Flash Forward will be starring Wally West after the events of HoC. Which I'm very happy about, since I felt very ambivalent about how that mini-series left things off for Wally. Written by Scott Lobdell, though.
 
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Is it safe to talk about the ending of "Heroes in Crisis" yet? Because there's been a new mini-series announced that deals with the fallout for a specific character.
Flash Forward will be starring Wally West after the events of HoC. Which I'm very happy about, since I felt very ambivalent about how that mini-series left things off for Wally. Written by Scott Lobdell, thought.

Thank God.
 
They are all fucking space millenials, because Bendis is an old white man who totally knows how the young folk think :barf2: For fucks sake, "Lightning Lad" has a Mohawk mixed with a mullet. The fucking 1980s never had a haircut that was this bad, and the 1980s had really shitty hair styles.
So what? The Legion always looked contemporary. From the 50s haircuts of the early Legion to the blow-dried sideburned 70s Legion and beyond.
What does a kid like you really know about the 80s anyway? :lol:
 
It is also a proper title--one would think if you wanted to honour your favorite book, you'd at least get the title correct? For examples, "No one compares to you" is not the name of the song.
The one that always drives me batshit insane is people talking about how great Christopher "Reeves" was as Superman. It happens all. The. Time. I've seen people heaping the most extravagant (and deserved) praise on him, not realizing they're simultaneously disrespecting him on the fundamental level of not even knowing his actual fucking name.
 
I cut people slack because it's easy to mix up with George Reeves. I know some super smart people who can't spell for shit and I don't think they mean to be disrespectful to anyone. And honestly, people fooling around on a message board shouldn't have their feet held to the fire for not following the style manual.
 
The one that always drives me batshit insane is people talking about how great Christopher "Reeves" was as Superman. It happens all. The. Time. I've seen people heaping the most extravagant (and deserved) praise on him, not realizing they're simultaneously disrespecting him on the fundamental level of not even knowing his actual fucking name.

And then crazy people on the internet insist that it used to be Reeves, and it changed, and they know it for a fact, and insist that reality has changed, or they are in a different universe, and point to errors where people have spelled it wrong as "residue" from the way it "used to be" and call that "proof." SMH.
 
And then crazy people on the internet insist that it used to be Reeves, and it changed, and they know it for a fact, and insist that reality has changed, or they are in a different universe, and point to errors where people have spelled it wrong as "residue" from the way it "used to be" and call that "proof." SMH.
Did they also mention the red skies that once hung over the planet and violet global storms?
 
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