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DC Comics: Rebirth

I really liked the first arc of the JLU book and wish the team had stuck together. It was great seeing the real Legion back in action.

Real Legion? What Legion was in JLU? The Legion of Superheroes wasn't, and I can't imagine that L.E.G.I.O.N. has shown up in the New 52. The wikipedia page doesn't mention anything called Legion, either.

I love the idea of introducing mini-series for characters who might not be able to sustain a monthly comic. Hawkman is one of my favorite characters and it was too bad that his introduction to the new 52 was so poorly written.

Yeah, its a good idea. Maybe we'll eventually get characters like Elongated Man in this format, characters that don't show up much nowadays but are still good characters.

that Deadman mini looks heavily influenced by Dark Shadows, which is awesome. i hope we get more horror books from DC.

Now I'm imaging Johnny Depp playing Deadman :lol:

Written by Marc Andreyko, who did "Batwoman" with J.H. Williams III, and more recently wrote (or writes, I'm not up-to-date) for "Wonder Woman '77".

Oh, well then I actually don't think I will read it. I refuse to read anything related to DC's screwing over of Batwoman. They pushed the creative team out because no Bat character can be happy (an idea that is so stupid it could only have come from the current DC management), and instead of having the decency to cancel the book they basically got a flunky to write the "party line" until it got cancelled. If Andreyko is that flunky, I won't read his work. He's just a DiDio minion, and I want nothing to do with that.
 

Oh, well, that Legion actually showed up years ago, beginning in JLA/JSA Crossover "The Lightning Saga" and had an ongoing that basically just got renumbered by the New 52, and lasted for a bit until it was cancelled. So, the "real" Legion had been back in action, as THE Legion of Superheroes, since 2007. I was confused because your post made it seem like JLU featured the return of the team, when its the basically the same team that existed from 1958-1989 (the 5 Year later legion doesn't count), then 2007-present. Also, the wikipedia page for JLU definitely doesn't mention them, although the page for that version of the Legion does mention the story.

Personally I love the LoSH, especially that version, but Jeff Lemire is a terrible writer and even the Legion appearing couldn't make me read JLU.
 
It was the return of the team. The new 52 has had at least one other version so far.

And I respectfully disagree about Lemire's writing abilities.
 
It was the return of the team. The new 52 has had at least one other version so far.

And I respectfully disagree about Lemire's writing abilities.

The New 52 has only had one version of the Legion of Superheroes, unless you want to count Legion Lost which was just members of the normal Legion that were lost in time. Wikipedia agrees with me, so I know I didn't miss a whole new Legion. Now, the New 52 Legion is the same from pre-reboot, so they have had contact with the Legions of other realities in the Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds mini (assuming that is still continuity for them, even if its not for the rest of the DCU), but they're still the only Legion of the DC Universe, at least for the main Earth.

As for Lemire, I know he has fans. I just happen to hate everything of his I've ever read, especially his New 52 stuff like Animal Man, JLD and JLU. I know I'm in the minority with that opinion.
 
There was at least one alternative version that I know of, in Morrison's Action Comics.

And that was the "real" Legion also from pre-52 that returned in the Lightning Saga.
 
There was at least one alternative version that I know of, in Morrison's Action Comics.

And that was the "real" Legion also from pre-52 that returned in the Lightning Saga.

Well, if Morrison added a Legion then that was just him being a doofus. I don't know what your second line means. The original Legion of Superheroes came back in 2007 in the Lightning Saga after being gone since 1989. They have been the one and only version of the Legion of Superheroes for the main DC Universe since that story 2007, and the other two Legions got basically a finale in Legion of Three Worlds. Anything else is just Morrison paying absolutely no attention to continuity. If he used a Legion, they weren't the canon Legion, it was some Morrison only version that I'm sure he'd say existed on Earth __ and probably ties into multiversity or Final Crisis or some random issue of his Batman run because everything Morrison does is connected to something else in some way only know to him.

So, there is no in continuity version of the Legion in the New 52 besides the one that was created in the 50s and came back in 2007 and had an ongoing that got cancelled about 20 issues into the New 52 (at least not on the main Earth). I don't know what Morrison put in his terrible Action Comics run, but it wasn't the actual Legion of Superheroes. Like much of Morrison's work, especially his later DC work, its better to just ignore it and realize that he writes every story in its own little world, then leaves it to DC to try to jam the story/run into continuity.
 
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I'm going to admit that I didn't really care for The New Super-Man either. The issue was pretty much a struggle to get through.

But the final page hook got my attention. I'll give it one more issue to see where that goes. It's one more issue that I gave Green Arrow, so that's something.

I'm probably done with The Flash too. The Rebirth issue was good, but the next two have been week sauce. Sad because I WANT to read a Flash book.

I liked Nightwing Rebirth and will keep going on that. Detective was good. Digging Action Comics as well.

And I would be very happy for a new LSH book!
 
Frank Cho has quite doing covers for Wonder Woman. He accuses Greg Rucka of censoring his artwork, because he objected to some of it, and he accuses Rucka of having a "weird political agenda".
The CBR article shows two different versions of Cho's artwork for WW#3, one which shows her dress flowing up to show a tiny bit of her underwear, and another version that was cropped to cut off the underwear.
I know the underwear poking out isn't anything horrible, but it's still totally unnecessary, and with so many controversies have popped up over similar covers in the past, I can see why Rucka would have objected to it, and why DC changed it.
 
Yeah, I think Rucka had it right. The underwear was ridiculous and completely out of place. As someone I read online pointed out, its not censorship. Cho was hired to do these covers for DC comics, and as the people who bought/commissioned the art for use in their product they are allowed to do with that artwork what they want. I don't even know what Cho was thinking, but it didn't make sense for Wonder Woman and DC had every right (both legally and, since Cho brought up censorship, ethically) to change the art to fit what they felt was appropriate for the comic.
 
Was the big controversial Spider-Woman a while back also Cho, or was that someone else?
 
Not sure.

I don't think Wonder Woman wears underwear, but when pretending to be mortal (which this one doesn't) she might wear underwear and thoroughly resent it.

4000 year old commando.

(How old is Diana?)
 
Wonder Woman #2 was pretty good. Its the start of the second story arc per month (the book is switching between story arcs for the two monthly issues) Wonder Woman Year One. Its was interesting, well drawn, and just a good book. Both story arcs have started well. I think this is going to end up being the best main universe WW comic run in awhile.
 
New 52 Diana was 18 or so when the Justice League formed. Pre-52, who know? No one ever really locked down how long she was on Paradise Island before coming to Man's World. Earth-2 Diana gave up her immortality when she married Steve Trevor and aged normally from that point forward. Snyder has hinted that the movie Diana is approximately 5,000 but that might change when next year's film comes out.
 
Not sure.

I don't think Wonder Woman wears underwear, but when pretending to be mortal (which this one doesn't) she might wear underwear and thoroughly resent it.

4000 year old commando.

(How old is Diana?)

I actually dislike that they keep de aging Clark AND Diana. Those two should have their entire history as Immortals going back to the Golden Age. THAT is why Superman should be the big boyscout, and have all of those traditional American Values to fight for. Wonder Woman is empowered by the Greek Gods. I get why legacy characters have to keep existing in the modern day, and why Batman's origin is constantly being updated, but it would truly not bother me if all the major characters remained a relic of when they were created, Barry and Hal in the silver age, Wally in the 90s/2000s, etc, Bruce retiring to a more ("Finch on person of Interest") style role while Tim (or even Terry) takes up the mantle to do the legwork.... No need to keep rebooting if your entire back catalogue can be in continuity....


Oh yeah. The reason I was actually going to post. Is it even UNDERWEAR.... or just the regular spandex style costume she has *always* worn, underneath an armored skirt?
 
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