DC Comics: Rebirth
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Hmm... well we already have Vixen, Vibe and Martian Manhunter in the Arrowverse, and i'm pretty sure I heard they are casting for Steel. We could totally get this on TV!! Lol. If they weren't holding certain character's off limits, we could have probably gotten a full blown JLI on TV. I often wonder what "Legends of Tomorrow" would have been like with Blue and Gold instead of Atom and Rip, Fire and Ice instead of Captain Cold and Heatwave, and Guy Gardner as the asshole Lantern. The Flash could easily introduce Captain Atom, and we've seen Doctor Fate's helmet, and already have "a" version of Doctor Light. I understand keeping the Big Guns for the movies, but most of these B/C level charaters could have done on TV pretty easily and organically...
Wow? That line up last three years until Keith Giffen literally disassembled them in the last 4 issues of this volume?
Read JLA 1.
Hitch?
Was he told to do a bad job, and therefore increase his volume of work, you know, twice as many pages that look half as good, or is the new inker a total Muppet?
Read JLA 1.
Hitch?
Was he told to do a bad job, and therefore increase his volume of work, you know, twice as many pages that look half as good, or is the new inker a total Muppet?
My girlfriend likes "cute" comics.
I tried to sell her on legion.
After a massive song and dance, her final words on the subject were: "That guy sure is wearing a lot of pink."
I tried to sell her on legion.
After a massive song and dance, her final words on the subject were: "That guy sure is wearing a lot of pink."
I hate almost everything the New 52 has done, but I'll give it this. It made Vibe into an interesting hero, something I would have thought impossible. The Flash TV show also used the character well, but he's a much different character in the show. The New 52 comics actually made Vibe (as a regular superhero) interesting, his 10 issue solo series was pretty good.
Superman #2 was good. I really like seeing Post-Crisis Clark training his young son who ISN'T becoming a horrible little snot. Gleason's art was great as well. It's so nice to see "my" Superman with "my" Lois. By far the best change to come about with Rebirth.
I just realized something. I had it in my head that this is the kid from Geoff John's "Last Son" storyline but that's Chris Kent, who hasn't been seen or mentioned since all the way back in "War of the Supermen". Was he really unpopular or something? Why did they drop him like a bad habit?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kent_(comics)
I just realized something. I had it in my head that this is the kid from Geoff John's "Last Son" storyline but that's Chris Kent, who hasn't been seen or mentioned since all the way back in "War of the Supermen". Was he really unpopular or something? Why did they drop him like a bad habit?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kent_(comics)
Imagine if the Joker's kid became Robin?
No?
Bruce wouldn't pull a Cartman?
(Trick the Joker into murdering his own son.)
No?
Bruce wouldn't pull a Cartman?
(Trick the Joker into murdering his own son.)
The main thrust of the storyline is being spearheaded by Jurgens who had nothing to do with Chris and had everything to do with the Superkid from Convergence so naturally they used Jurgen's character instead.
Chris Kent was not Superman and Lois' biological son. He was Zod and Ursa's son. Obviously there is a big difference. Much easier to explain to everyone who does not follow comics that this kid is actually Lois and Clark's own child whixh they raised from birth.
It's interesting that Jurgens named him Jonathan White. Which is very similar to Jason White. Obviously the reason their child has that last name is very different from Superman Returns. But Jurgens had to be aware of that.
It's interesting that Jurgens named him Jonathan White. Which is very similar to Jason White. Obviously the reason their child has that last name is very different from Superman Returns. But Jurgens had to be aware of that.
Green Arrow #2 was really bad.
Its pretty clear that Green Arrow Rebirth and these first two issues weren't acting as a jumping on point for new readers. They were just issues #53, 54 and 55 of the previous run, with new numbers to bring in reads and give them an excuse for a redesign. I'm sure that its not the writers fault, it was DC marketing/people in charge who wanted a new #1, but every other Rebirth book I've read works well as a jumping on point. Green Arrow is the exception. I'm done with the devolved Oliver and popstar "Black Canary". I'd say that, for me, this is the first big screw up of Rebirth. Luckily its the only one so far, and there was always going to be a bad Rebirth book or two. I'm done with the book, until the next time it reboots or renumbers (hopefully as a legitimate jump on point for readers who didn't suffer through the last volume).
It looks like its time for "Oliver Queen loses money/everything he cares about, and has to fight his way back from the bottom" story #3456A. Seriously, this is basically a Green arrow cliche at this point. The issue continued the trend of being newbie unfriendly. Not only have we still not gotten any backstory for Oliver's "sister", the whole betrayal storyline doesn't really work as an issue #2 in a supposedly new series. Am I the only one who thinks that the Ninth Circle is a lot like the Court of Owls? Its not connected to one town and probably doesn't have as much in universe history, but I really got a similar vibe.
Its pretty clear that Green Arrow Rebirth and these first two issues weren't acting as a jumping on point for new readers. They were just issues #53, 54 and 55 of the previous run, with new numbers to bring in reads and give them an excuse for a redesign. I'm sure that its not the writers fault, it was DC marketing/people in charge who wanted a new #1, but every other Rebirth book I've read works well as a jumping on point. Green Arrow is the exception. I'm done with the devolved Oliver and popstar "Black Canary". I'd say that, for me, this is the first big screw up of Rebirth. Luckily its the only one so far, and there was always going to be a bad Rebirth book or two. I'm done with the book, until the next time it reboots or renumbers (hopefully as a legitimate jump on point for readers who didn't suffer through the last volume).
So... did Gotham City have a Not-Statue of Liberty before this issue....?
Well, there was that "Lady Gotham" sttatue in Batman Forever.
I believe both Gotham and Metropolis have been shown to have Not-Statues of Liberty.So... did Gotham City have a Not-Statue of Liberty before this issue....?
I get the feeling that old-school Superman will be revealed to the One True Superman, and that New 52 Supes was a construct of Dr. Manhattan. (Hence the blue glow seeping out of the ground above his grave.) Mr. Oz said that Lois and Clark are not what they appear to be, as in refugees from one Earth to another. I think Lois and Clark may actually be the templates from which Dr. Manhattan created the entire New 52 universe. A literal meta-reference that everything begins with Superman.
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I don't think Chris was unpopular. During the New Krypton era, Chris was aged up to early 20s and operated on Earth as a hero named Nightwing in the pages of Action Comics. But then DC undid everything of that era in a really hamfisted way in War of the Supermen, and the young adult Chris was banished back to the Phantom Zone. I think DC was simply trying to restore Superman back to its usual status quo, and that meant getting rid of interesting stuff like Chris and Thara Ak-Var.
DC took 15 of the Top 20 Comics in June.
Marvel still leads in units shipped, and taken the #1 spot, though. But, Rebirth is quite the hit. Of course, it'll take some time to see whether this success will hold up, or whether sales will drop as significantly as they did after the short rise of the New 52 launch.
Marvel still leads in units shipped, and taken the #1 spot, though. But, Rebirth is quite the hit. Of course, it'll take some time to see whether this success will hold up, or whether sales will drop as significantly as they did after the short rise of the New 52 launch.
Sales always drop, that's just how it is. Unless it's Walking Dead, sales only go in one direction, for any book.