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DC Comics: Rebirth

I read some of this week's Rebirth stuff. The Flash #1 was ok. It had some uninteresting parts, and it doesn't feel that far off from the first New 52 run, but it was decent enough to keep going. Aquaman #1 was pretty good, about as good as the first New 52 run when geoff Johns was writing it, although the ending of the issue was predictable.

Detective was decent, and the bit with Stephanie/Tim/Cassandra felt like like how the characters acted pre-reboot. Clayface is also pretty interesting, I kind of hope he stays a hero for awhile (although I doubt he'll stay a hero any longer then The Sandman stayed a hero at Marvel back in the day). Batwoman and her father were both a bit off though, at least compared to how they were written the last time I read Batwoman (I dropped the book after the original writers got screwed over). I still need to get to the Wonder Woman and Batman #1's.
 
This is not a sexy picture.

This is a hilarious picture.

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Because I can recognise Pamela Anderson, Yasmine Bleeth and Carmen Electra, I'm pretty sure that this was originally a promotional shot for Baywatch.

Google does not seem to have any word on a new Legion comic for Rebirth. :(
 
Is it weird that I can identify the Legion era based on the costumes :lol: Not a great era costume wise (I always disliked those versions of Saturn Girl and Princess Projectra's costumes), but a pretty good photoshop job.
 
Guy Gardener said:
This is not a sexy picture.

This is a hilarious picture.

legion.jpg


Because I can recognise Pamela Anderson, Yasmine Bleeth and Carmen Electra, I'm pretty sure that this was originally a promotional shot for Baywatch.

Google does not seem to have any word on a new Legion comic for Rebirth. :(
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Pretty close to live action versions of the 70s Mike Grell days.
 
Super weird.

All these women are exactly the same height.

I'm guessing that that means that this manipulation wasn't originally a group shop.
 
I'm about half way through Titans Hunt. This is really interesting in that the editorial move is to return to the original Titans line up rather than Marv Wolfman's "New Teen Titans" which was the vastly more popular series.

Part of this is because Cyborg, Raven, and Beast Boy have already been given distinctive origins that eliminate their possibility of having ever been in the Titans. I assume the same is true for Starfire but I haven't followed any book she has starred in. But, it is interesting that we are going back to the seventies here. I'm curious as to what this means for Wally who seems to have been the same Wally from pre-Flashpoint when we meet him in Rebirth. I'm very curious to see where this is going.
 
theenglish said:
I'm about half way through Titans Hunt. This is really interesting in that the editorial move is to return to the original Titans line up rather than Marv Wolfman's "New Teen Titans" which was the vastly more popular series.

Part of this is because Cyborg, Raven, and Beast Boy have already been given distinctive origins that eliminate their possibility of having ever been in the Titans. I assume the same is true for Starfire but I haven't followed any book she has starred in. But, it is interesting that we are going back to the seventies here. I'm curious as to what this means for Wally who seems to have been the same Wally from pre-Flashpoint when we meet him in Rebirth. I'm very curious to see where this is going.
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Titans hunt was pretty good. I still really don't like what the New 52 did to Cyborg, Raven and Starfire, but at least the older Titans team is now relevant and interesting again, and seem to have a decent writer. Now, if only they could hire a good writer for Teen Titans...
 
Benjamin Percy. And it looks like the Teen Titans will have Raven, Starfire, and Beastboy. I'm not sure why there needs to be two Titans teams in the DCU. I'm not against the idea of two teams, but I don't like when they split them into two, unrelated teams of Titans.

I much prefer when one goes by a different name, be it the older heroes calling themselves the Outsiders or the younger heroes calling themselves Young Justice.
 
In the current Starfire ongoing, she arrived on Earth for the first time and learnt English from kissing someone who was not Dick Grayson, in issue #1.

Wally Forces people to "remember" their prenew52 lives.

Even as their memories are returned, those memories still share space, competeing with their new 52 memories, and despite all of the team remembering two lifetimes/worlds, reality itself has not been restructured or altered to reflect the Titans 'recovered' memories.

Right now, I'm hesitant to wonder if the team is not recovering suppressed memories after some evil architect rewrote the universe, and that Wally is just "infecting" these poor kids with mirror universe doppleganger personalities that really has nothing to do with the Titans of this Earth, if Flashpoint can be taken at face value, which it obviously can't.
 
shivkala said:
Benjamin Percy. And it looks like the Teen Titans will have Raven, Starfire, and Beastboy. I'm not sure why there needs to be two Titans teams in the DCU. I'm not against the idea of two teams, but I don't like when they split them into two, unrelated teams of Titans.

I much prefer when one goes by a different name, be it the older heroes calling themselves the Outsiders or the younger heroes calling themselves Young Justice.
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I don't see any problem with two teams. One is The Titans, the other is Teen Titans. I actually prefer that, myself, and its worked out fine for DC in the past (it also worked for Marvel when they had Young Avengers and Avengers at the same time). Now, I'd prefer Raven, Starfire, BB (along with Cyborg) on the Titans team of course, but having two teams of Titans, one with the older ones and one with the teens, has been done before.

Guy Gardener said:
In the current Starfire ongoing, she arrived on Earth for the first time and learnt English from kissing someone who was not Dick Grayson, in issue #1.
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Well, even taking her solo series into account, all of Red Hood and the Outlaws happened for her, and she knows Dick Grayson, they had some kind of relationship prior to both her solo series and prior to Red Hood & The Outlaws. I don't remember the first issue of her solo series showing her arrive on Earth, but if it did it was a flashback of several years at the very least. Either that or it showed her coming back to Earth, since I think Red Hood had her go back to space for a bit (although I dropped that book after one issue, and only read a few summaries afterward, so I don't really know).

The solo series itself takes place sometime after the first run of Red Hood & The Outlaws, it doesn't discount that book or take it out of continuity, unfortunately (I was hoping her solo book would explain why she was a sex goldfish in RH&TO but somehow regained the ability to remember people even when they weren't around/she wasn't actively having sex with them, but I don't blame the writers for not even mentioning Scott Lobdell's psychotic, sexist BS).
 
kirk55555 said:
I don't see any problem with two teams. One is The Titans, the other is Teen Titans. I actually prefer that, myself, and its worked out fine for DC in the past (it also worked for Marvel when they had Young Avengers and Avengers at the same time). Now, I'd prefer Raven, Starfire, BB (along with Cyborg) on the Titans team of course, but having two teams of Titans, one with the older ones and one with the teens, has been done before.
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The difference between the Young Avengers and the Teen Titans is in the name itself. The YA are named after the premiere team in the Marvel Universe. The name implies they are connected to the Avengers and once they outgrow the "young" part, where else to go but to the Avengers proper?

The Titans always, until Wally, came across as a team whose end goal was never clear (because there was none, no one, until [Crisis] ever thought a Titan would take their place on the Justice League.
 
The team didn't need a goal. They were a bunch of friends who fought crime. I never considered them to be JLA jr, any more than the JLA was JSA jr. They weren't waiting to "graduate" to the Justice League, they were their own group (at least the older team, the Geoff Johns Teen Titans team was a bit more junior JLA, but not that much). The Titans formed because the sidekicks wanted to team up, and as it went on it was pretty clear they weren't waiting to "grow up" and join an adult team. They didn't need to be JLA members, and honestly the worst JLA run I've ever read had Titans being shoved into the team (although that wasn't the reason it sucked, James Robinson is just terrible nowadays).

Honestly, outside of the pretty awesome New Teen Titans by Wolfman/Perez (where the "teens" were 18/19 anyway), my favorite Titans book is Devin Grayson's run, just called Titans. Most of the team were senior, early 20s Titans, along with Jesse Quick (who was the same age as the older Titans) and two teen heroes (Argent, who I think was 18, and Damage, who might have been the only minor on the team). Until a new editor came along (who didn't even know that Dick Grayson had been Nightwing for over 15 years at that point), the book was great. It was also never a "junior league" team. That's why I'm so excited to see the Titans Rebirth go to a series. The Titans characters as older teens/adults are my favorite versions of the Titans. They're not JLA jr, they're just another team of heroes, some of which happened to have connections to older heroes.
 
The Wolfman Teen Titans became the New Titans. They dropped being teens when the characters became twentysomethings.
The rebirth team followed the same path.
 
And on a serious note. Something I've never seen before, DC comics is doing television ads for Rebirth. Don't think I have ever seen a comic book company do tv ads.
 
i think there were a few ads (theater only) for DC Comics when the Green Lantern film was released.
 
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