David Blue Talks About SGU
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Eh, that's the kind of thing actors always say. "It gets better, I promise!" We'll see.
^ It could be "Cloverdale" "quality" every week.
I get the sense that some people don't like this show. 
I don't think it's just hyperbole that this series is shifting with the episodes he stated. While I probably agree with those who state it could/should have happened sooner I'm nonetheless interested in seeing where it's going. I hope Syfy doesn't pull the trigger on this show just yet.
I don't think it's just hyperbole that this series is shifting with the episodes he stated. While I probably agree with those who state it could/should have happened sooner I'm nonetheless interested in seeing where it's going. I hope Syfy doesn't pull the trigger on this show just yet.
Same here. I honestly think this show has great potential and it seems that at least, it's moving solidly in that direction.
If SyFy does pull the plug, I hope they do it in a manner that allows the producers to concoct some form of decent ending for the show.
From vague spoilers I've read apparently some new big bad new alien race gets introduced at the end of season two.
So of course it would be just like SyFy to cancel the show at that point.
Imagine DS9 ending after two seasons, right after they meet the Jem'Hadar and the Odyssey gets destroyed.
I hope the show gets another season.
So of course it would be just like SyFy to cancel the show at that point.
Imagine DS9 ending after two seasons, right after they meet the Jem'Hadar and the Odyssey gets destroyed.
I hope the show gets another season.
Not really an apt comparison. Even when it was at the same point SGU currently is (seventh episode of the second season) DS9 was showing more potential than SGU has. I mean we'd already seen episodes like Emissary, Captive Pursuit, Duet, The Homecoming/The Circle/The Siege arc. I really can't think of any SGU episodes which match those DS9 episodes.
Meanwhile, the worse DS9 at this point was Move Along Home, which is a work of art compared to Cloverdale.
Oh I agree, DS9 was already a decent show in its first two seasons. But had DS9 ended at the end of season two it still would have driven me bonkers.
Supposedly the Big Bad is introduced in Resurgence, the first part of the midseason 2-parter.
TPTB always plan an ending each season if the show would be canceled. All of the seasons of SG-1 and Atlantis have had one.
They did that for SG-1 seasons 7 and 8, but for Season 9 they knew they were going to get a season 10, so they didn't plan it to be the final season, which is why the Ark of Truth movie was made, to tie up all the loose ends from season 10.
As bullethead indicates, they only did that for seasons 6, 7, and 8 of STARGATE SG-1.
I don't believe STARGATE ATLANTIS ever had a finale without a big cliffhanger, except for "Enemy at the Gates," which was hastily made into a finale at the last minute. And, since the production of STARGATE UNIVERSE is so far along, SyFy would have to announce cancellation soon if another last-minute finale was to be produced.
Honestly, I think some aspects of the show, where it is now, have benefited from the gradual build up. Don't get me wrong; there have been a few episodes that truly were filler; but really, I think only 2 or 3. Not two thirds of an entire season like the super cynical fans rant about.
The moment that crystallized this for me was when everyone walked into the bridge for the first time, and the moment of realization dawned on what Rush had been hiding. From that moment forward I feel the writing has seriously capitalized on the built up tension, despair, stress, panic, and anger everyone has been going through for the first season. I think what has become the "bridge crew" for the moment isn't getting enough credit - that's a unique character dynamic of four people (counting Eli too) who were all going through their own crap for a year on that ship having found a purpose and creating a new community.
There's a lot of character development going on right now in fact, at high speed; and while impatient viewers are just saying "well finally, show sucked until now", wonder if folks realize this payoff is so meaningful because of what has come before it. All the stuff we're seeing come out in most of the core characters has weight and gravity because of the shared history the crew has at this point.
But, then, I haven't been one of those who believes it's a terrible cast of characters who are unlikable. The characters are more complex and frankly, not as cartoonish as the characters in SG-1 and Atlantis. The only character who remains a burden IMHO is Chloe; she's the most aggravating stereotype in the crew, who for the moment remains SGU's Wesley.
Sometimes I think if a show like Babylon 5 was broadcast today, people would never give it a chance and harp constantly that it was going nowhere. Season 3 would roll around and when there was finally an outright battle with the Shadows, folks would be grouching that "finally! Why didn't this happen in episode 3! No, forget that, Episode 1!!" And that's even taking into account B5's (for the sake of this analogy) weak first season, which wasn't all that weak when the tons of callbacks began to fall into place.
Gah; I still think that a lot of people are just determined to hate on SGU because it's not SG-1, that's all there is to it. That's fans for you.
The moment that crystallized this for me was when everyone walked into the bridge for the first time, and the moment of realization dawned on what Rush had been hiding. From that moment forward I feel the writing has seriously capitalized on the built up tension, despair, stress, panic, and anger everyone has been going through for the first season. I think what has become the "bridge crew" for the moment isn't getting enough credit - that's a unique character dynamic of four people (counting Eli too) who were all going through their own crap for a year on that ship having found a purpose and creating a new community.
There's a lot of character development going on right now in fact, at high speed; and while impatient viewers are just saying "well finally, show sucked until now", wonder if folks realize this payoff is so meaningful because of what has come before it. All the stuff we're seeing come out in most of the core characters has weight and gravity because of the shared history the crew has at this point.
But, then, I haven't been one of those who believes it's a terrible cast of characters who are unlikable. The characters are more complex and frankly, not as cartoonish as the characters in SG-1 and Atlantis. The only character who remains a burden IMHO is Chloe; she's the most aggravating stereotype in the crew, who for the moment remains SGU's Wesley.
Sometimes I think if a show like Babylon 5 was broadcast today, people would never give it a chance and harp constantly that it was going nowhere. Season 3 would roll around and when there was finally an outright battle with the Shadows, folks would be grouching that "finally! Why didn't this happen in episode 3! No, forget that, Episode 1!!" And that's even taking into account B5's (for the sake of this analogy) weak first season, which wasn't all that weak when the tons of callbacks began to fall into place.
Gah; I still think that a lot of people are just determined to hate on SGU because it's not SG-1, that's all there is to it. That's fans for you.
What a bunch of bullshit.
Yeah, I only like sci-fi shows where shit blows up every five minutes. I'm 12, after all.
The things I like about SGU are decidedly features that distinguish it from SG-1: no ability to go to Earth to get reinforcements/weapons (stones don't count since the number of bodies is still limited); mixed civilian/military crew; no aliens-of-the-week. My primary gripes have been about the pacing and characterization. Chloe was pretty much a non-entity until the blue alien thing happened. Rush has doubletalked and schemed and lied and kept secrets since day one and there was rarely a good reason for it. The civilians trying to take over the ship lacked a believable motivation since it was never discussed exactly how the civilians would run things differently--so it just looked like a petty power struggle over nothing. The use of the stones was downright laughable sometimes, like the nonsense with Young's wife.
The show has gotten better because these issues have largely been ironed out. People are making peace, Rush is having to learn not to hide everything, Chloe's character is turning into... something. I don't think a lot of the evolution we went through was necessary, to be honest. It's just that they've gradually dropped the elements that weren't working to the show's advantage.
Yeah, I only like sci-fi shows where shit blows up every five minutes. I'm 12, after all.
The things I like about SGU are decidedly features that distinguish it from SG-1: no ability to go to Earth to get reinforcements/weapons (stones don't count since the number of bodies is still limited); mixed civilian/military crew; no aliens-of-the-week. My primary gripes have been about the pacing and characterization. Chloe was pretty much a non-entity until the blue alien thing happened. Rush has doubletalked and schemed and lied and kept secrets since day one and there was rarely a good reason for it. The civilians trying to take over the ship lacked a believable motivation since it was never discussed exactly how the civilians would run things differently--so it just looked like a petty power struggle over nothing. The use of the stones was downright laughable sometimes, like the nonsense with Young's wife.
The show has gotten better because these issues have largely been ironed out. People are making peace, Rush is having to learn not to hide everything, Chloe's character is turning into... something. I don't think a lot of the evolution we went through was necessary, to be honest. It's just that they've gradually dropped the elements that weren't working to the show's advantage.
Stargate does not have to be a special ops team running through Vancouver's pine forest, firing P-90s while the leader makes sarcastic quips, the brains figures out a complex technical solution and the stoic alien warrior kicks ass and grunts "indeed."
But at the same time, a season and a half of people talking and doing nothing is not automatically "compelling drama" either.
But at the same time, a season and a half of people talking and doing nothing is not automatically "compelling drama" either.
Even if they did that, it's too late for SGU; principal photography has wrapped on season 2.
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