Haha...yeah you "care" all right. Care about making one excuse after the other for the production team.
Good Day....
Dating Picard
- Thread starter Lord Hobbers
- Start date
Haha...yeah you "care" all right. Care about making one excuse after the other for the production team.
Good Day....
Here's my view on the matter from another thread. That you find it so amusing continues the pattern of rudeness sadly.Haha...yeah you "care" all right. Care about making one excuse after the other for the production team.
Good Day....
Here's my view on the matter from another thread. That you find it so amusing continues the pattern of rudeness sadly.
If you can accept that these two pictures are of the same character, you should be able to accept all the things you listed.
They should bring in Miral Paris in full Discovery Klingon monstrosity makeup with her parents bitterly regretting they undid sabotaging Voyager's Doctor to make her look fully human.
There are two dates that would make sense for this bizarre retcon relating to Frontier Day that are still connections to ENT.
2402 – In the year 2152, between mid-February and mid-April, the NX-01’s mission after initially getting cancelled over a disastrous first contact, gets uncancelled and is allowed to continue. If it had stayed cancelled, it would have been the end of United Earth exploring space for a good while, and thus not lead to Federation Starfleet as it is known. This would line up with the Titan-A being launched in 2402 and keeps with PIC S2 being set in 2401.
2404 – Between May and November of 2154, the Vulcan High Command is dissolved, and is no longer watching over United Earth after 90 years, allowing for Starfleet to freely explore without Vulcan interference or oversight and represents the true spirit of Starfleet. 2404 is of course the year the events of the VOY finale "Endgame" occurred.
But they should have stuck with it being set in 2411, as that’s the correct founding year of Federation Starfleet.
2402 – In the year 2152, between mid-February and mid-April, the NX-01’s mission after initially getting cancelled over a disastrous first contact, gets uncancelled and is allowed to continue. If it had stayed cancelled, it would have been the end of United Earth exploring space for a good while, and thus not lead to Federation Starfleet as it is known. This would line up with the Titan-A being launched in 2402 and keeps with PIC S2 being set in 2401.
2404 – Between May and November of 2154, the Vulcan High Command is dissolved, and is no longer watching over United Earth after 90 years, allowing for Starfleet to freely explore without Vulcan interference or oversight and represents the true spirit of Starfleet. 2404 is of course the year the events of the VOY finale "Endgame" occurred.
But they should have stuck with it being set in 2411, as that’s the correct founding year of Federation Starfleet.
Last edited:
I have zero problems with Actors being replaced which is why I don't care about an older actor playing a 21 year old. Bewitched replaced Darren and Mrs Kravitz actors, Roseanne had a different Becky etc. But let's say if they recast Worf and gave him four Nostrils, pointy ears and he ended up being 4 feet tall. Yeah I would have a problem with that and so would everyone else.(except Fireproof)
If you can accept that these two pictures are of the same character, you should be able to accept all the things you listed.
Suspension of Disbelief only goes so far for me. I cannot reconcile the Turbolift funhouse. Sorry. The producers cannot either that is why they have kept mum about it.
I CAN believe Jack is 21 years old and I CAN believe Picard made a slip of the tongue. Maybe they can redub that line if it bothers everyone so much. Idk. But it's a very small thing compared to the other stuff that they have thrown out there the last 6 years.
You are right some people did. But I don't remember it being as huge as this age thing with Jack.....
It isn't bigger than the ship season 2. Season 3 it got bigger, but according to Enterprise 'Future Tense' by that century they have 'Bigger on the inside' TARDIS technology, so that's easy to wave away that Discovery got that in the refit.
The area is referred to as a System's hub according to the Season 2 art team
Its appearance on the Enterprise in the one of the Short Treks, yeah that can't be explained. But it seems to have been ignored by Strange New Worlds so far, just like that they ignored the engineering shown in one of the short treks.
Last edited:
And to imagine 20 years ago people were quibbling about Riker tossing a Reman down a bottomless pit on Deck 29 (of a 26 deck ship) on the Enterprise E.It isn't bigger than the ship season 2. Season 3 it got bigger, but according to Enterprise 'Future Tense' by that century they have 'Bigger on the inside' TARDIS technology, so that's easy to wave away that Discovery got that in the refit.
The area is referred to as a System's hub according to the Season 2 art team
It's appearance on the Enterprise in the one of the Short Treks, yeah that can't be explained. But it seems to have been ignored by Strange New Worlds so far.
It isn't very big in season 2. Season 3 it got bigger, but according to Enterprise 'Future Tense' by that century they have 'Bigger on the inside' TARDIS technology, so that's easy to wave away that
Discovery got that in the refit.
The area is referred to as a System's hub according to the Season 2 art team
It's appearance on the Enterprise in the one of the Short Treks, yeah can't be explained.
It would make more sense if they just said they were in testing stages for a holodeck or something and they were messing around with it in the transporter shafts. I don't know it's a hard one to try to reconcile.....
What? Ships don't have bottomless pits? How do you have your epic duels!?!?And to imagine 20 years ago people were quibbling about Riker tossing a Reman down a bottomless pit on Deck 29 (of a 26 deck ship) on the Enterprise E.
And to imagine 20 years ago people were quibbling about Riker tossing a Reman down a bottomless pit on Deck 29 (of a 26 deck ship) on the Enterprise E.
I had it pointed out to me once that just because the battle started on Deck 29 didn't mean it ended up there; presumably they fought their way up through the decks.
Of course, 34 years ago, we were all complaining about the 24-deck Enterprise-A having a turboshaft with more than 100 decks, numbered bottom to top.
I increasingly take solace in Roddenberry's own apparent position that what we see onscreen is merely a dramatic recreation of Starfleet logs, with occasional inaccuracies and artistic license in the depiction. That was how he accounted for the differences between TOS and TMP in the movie novelization, and how he advised fans to cope with the redesign of the Klingons. His idea was that newer versions are more accurate dramatizations, fixing the limitations and errors of previous ones. Although there are cases (like turbolift funhouse dimensions or the dating of PIC season 2-3) where I choose to believe it's the newer productions that are not entirely accurate, or at least that they're taking license in different ways.
Indeed. Just like Denmark in a Hamlet presentation can vary.
I really need a macro for this…
There are literally, as of today, March 22, 2023, 878 released filmed Star Trek adventures. Tomorrow, there will be 879. This is over almost sixty years, twelve series and thirteen films. That this all fits together as well as it does is an amazing feat. Yeah, there are mistakes. Oodles of them. But as opposed to focusing on what they get wrong, why don’t we focus on what they’ve gotten right? Because there’s a lot to celebrate there.
There are literally, as of today, March 22, 2023, 878 released filmed Star Trek adventures. Tomorrow, there will be 879. This is over almost sixty years, twelve series and thirteen films. That this all fits together as well as it does is an amazing feat. Yeah, there are mistakes. Oodles of them. But as opposed to focusing on what they get wrong, why don’t we focus on what they’ve gotten right? Because there’s a lot to celebrate there.
Agreed.
I'm not. In my head, the Enterprise bridge (and exterior) has always looked the way it did/does in Discovery and SNW. The reason it looked the way it did in the 60s is because we didn't have TVs that were high definition enough to see it properly
And to imagine 20 years ago people were quibbling about Riker tossing a Reman down a bottomless pit on Deck 29 (of a 26 deck ship) on the Enterprise E.
Or is it 24 decks?
Similar threads
