Daredevil season 3 Marvel/Netflix

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Turtletrekker, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. cylkoth

    cylkoth Commodore Commodore

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    ^ This isn't like the Sony/Fox deal, where those 2 licensed Marvel characters, gaining control over their live action appearances in films made by them. The Netflix shows were simply ordered by them, and are actually owned and produced by Marvel Tv thru ABC Studios.
    Unlike Sony with Spiderman, and Fox with X-Men, Netflix holds no claim to the IP, only streaming rights to continue offering the episodes on the service.
     
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  2. Christopher

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    If Netflix wanted to order any more Marvel productions, they wouldn't have cancelled the ones they already had.
     
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  3. JasonJ

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    I know exactly what you mean by this "anxiety". Karen Page (as portrayed- I don't think this is DAW doing it poorly, just how it is being done) always acts as if she's watching the "doors and corners" expecting something to come in or happen from off-screen.. like she isn't where she should be and just stole the Crown Jewels and may get caught.
     
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  5. Professor Zoom

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    I think Parrots information has been floated around before. Since Netflix doesn’t release viewership, there’s no way to confirm.

    Also: it maybe true, but it might not be enough to offset the cost of something they don’t totally own. The original Battlestar Galactica was successful in its first season, it was just to expensive to justify the cost.

    This has been Netflix’s problem since the beginning, they were only licensing material. Material that could get pulled. That’s why they got into original content.

    Why continue to spend money on something you don’t own fully? When you can spend that money on something you do? Netflix is making the same sort of business decisions other broadcasters make.
     
  6. theenglish

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    This is definitely a business decision, and apparently something with the contracts signed between Netflix and Marvel. There appears to be something in those contracts that Netflix does not like. Perhaps similar to an actor contract where extending the deal beyond this point requires substantially more financial (and creative control?) investment than was initially planned/expected? It certainly has to be more complicated than just Disney is opening a new streaming network. And it has to be something that has come up recently otherwise Netflix would not have ended the recent seasons of its shows the way it did.

    I would certainly appreciate one more series (Defenders) that wraps up the dangling plots, but that would probably be too much to hope for.
     
  7. Christopher

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    As the article linked above explained, they realized that most of the viewers of the Marvel shows were already Netflix subscribers anyway, so the shows weren't enlarging their subscriber base and therefore weren't making them significantly more money. And keeping them around as free advertising for Disney+ could cost them money. These decisions always come down to bean-counting and profit vs. loss.
     
  8. Professor Zoom

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    I think it’s more simple. It’s the expense wasn’t worth it. It didn’t get them more viewers. It wasn’t cost effective. They didn’t own it. Why keep it?
     
  9. grendelsbayne

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    I do wonder what kind of time frame they were looking at, though.

    Obviously, I can't just assume my case is typical, but I definitely did sign up to Netflix for the marvel shows and I definitely have noticed a slow but steady decline in the amount of stuff they're offering that I want to see. As long as they had Marvel and Star Trek, I was a guaranteed subscriber. Now they're giving up Marvel and if CBSAA goes international, they may lose ST, too. There are still some shows available I really love (Sabrina, Stranger Things, The Good Place, Dirk Gently) but they're really heavily spaced out across the year, and they aren't even all Netflix owned, either. And their available choice of movies has been rather disappointing for a while. All while the competition is starting to heat up more than ever.

    For now, this change isn't a deal-breaker, but if this kind of thinking becomes a habit, I honestly think it could wind up hurting them more than helping them in the long run.
     
  10. Saul

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    Just finished season 3. Outstanding.
    The best season of any comic book TV series.
    I would love to see the creative team behind this continue, if not with Daredevil than another Superhero.
     
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  11. Turtletrekker

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