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Awesome episodes but just one question - where the fuck is Frank???

Last i remember he was taken prisoner and left in that cage with all the other prisoners, was that a different location? As soon as Matt broke in and started freeing the prisoners i went hell yeah, now we'll get a Daredevil/Punisher Combat Combo but it didn't happen so where is he?

Swordsman/Jack was awesome though as well as Karen, she is a long way from the shy and scared character she was in her first appearance.
 
FPAlpha said:
Awesome episodes but just one question - where the fuck is Frank???

Last i remember he was taken prisoner and left in that cage with all the other prisoners, was that a different location? As soon as Matt broke in and started freeing the prisoners i went hell yeah, now we'll get a Daredevil/Punisher Combat Combo but it didn't happen so where is he?

Swordsman/Jack was awesome though as well as Karen, she is a long way from the shy and scared character she was in her first appearance.
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Did you watch the post credit scene of s1?

Frank escaped almost as soon as they took him. What he's up to and doing is likely the subject of his special episode, airing the week after DD wraps up.
 
Xerxes82 said:
Did you watch the post credit scene of s1?

Frank escaped almost as soon as they took him. What he's up to and doing is likely the subject of his special episode, airing the week after DD wraps up.
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Ah ok, completely forgot about it. It's been a while.
 
One other question - the woman who's making the spoof videos of Fisk. Is that his Chief of Staff? Couldn't for some reason make it out clearly.
 
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:luvlove:

Now bring back Misty and Colleen!
:scream:
 
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Well, that was probably the most complex one-shot fight scene in the show's entire history. Although, that clearly wasn't really done in one shot like some of the Netflix one-shot battles were.
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Yeah there was a lot of obvious digital stitching going on. Not that I mind...but I'd be just as fine with cuts. A fight scene cut traditionally is less distracting than a stitched together fake oner, personally.

Even the famed old Netflix oners were sometimes not actually. They just hid the seams better. ;)
 
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:luvlove:

Now bring back Misty and Colleen!

:scream:
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For the second spoiler - Yes please:)
 
I finally got caught up and these last couple of episodes were fantastic.
I was nice to get confirmation about who the person doing the anti-Fisk videos was, although I was surprised they revealed it so early.
Definitely curious where what's going to happen with the governor, she doesn't seem to be a fan of Fisk, so that pretty much leaves only two options for her, death or blackmailed into cooperating with Fisk.
I was a little surprised they already have Angela becoming White Tiger, I knew it was inevitable since at this point she's pretty much the default White Tiger in most other adaptation, I figured if it happened they were going to wait until she was older.
I really don't understand Heather's attitude towards vigilantes. I understand she's traumatized by what happened with Muse, and I appreciate them trying to deal with it realistically, but I would have thought she was intelligent enough to know the difference between psychotic serial killers and heroic vigilates. Didn't Daredevil save her from Muse? I would think that would make her fully pro-vigilante and on The Resistance's side. I thought she knew about all of the horrible shit Fisk has done.
The prison break scene was fantastic, although the attempts to make it looks like it was a oner when it clearly wasn't were a little obvious and kinda cheesy.
I was hoping the reference to Matt making new allies in the description for The Scale & The Sword meant that we'd be getting Jessica, but sadly we didn't.
 
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I'm assuming that the daughter in question is Danielle and that the father is Luke. I think the fans would riot otherwise. However, that makes me think that this is why they leaked the return of Luke and Danny for season 3 when they did.
 
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:luvlove:

Now bring back Misty and Colleen!

:scream:
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But we hates him. ;)
 
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I'm assuming that the daughter in question is Danielle and that the father is Luke. I think the fans would riot otherwise. However, that makes me think that this is why they leaked the return of Luke and Danny for season 3 when they did.
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Also:

That's definitely Toby Leonard Moore returning as Wesley!

Obviously a flashback considering Kingpin's suit (as opposed to my previous theory of Wesley haunting Fisk) but definitely new footage based on D'Onofrio's physique.
 
kirk55555 said:
I am so tired of the idiot Psychologist, I really hope she gets taken out soon. A completely pointless, evil moron. The character has no reason to exist, unless she literally becomes Typhoid Mary (the only crazy female Daredevil villain I can think of) she'll probably be the most pointless recurring character in the history of the MCU.

Outside of that the episodes have been decent, but still below Born againj Season 1.
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Did a psychologist run over your dog or something?
 
I don't know if anyone else is watching/listening to the official podcast but it's worth checking out for the in-depth discussions about each episode (I can't wait for Krysten Ritter's appearance on her turn). I bring it up now because the most recent one featured a segment with Charlie Cox, Tony Dalton, and stunt coordinator Philip Silvera discussing the difficulty of producing the prison escape oner:

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I'm curious if Jessica's daughter is going to have a different from Luke, since never really had the kind of relationship that they had in the comics. I guess they could have gotten together again after we last saw them, but they seem to have by the last time we saw them.
 
JD said:
I'm curious if Jessica's daughter is going to have a different from Luke, since never really had the kind of relationship that they had in the comics. I guess they could have gotten together again after we last saw them, but they seem to have by the last time we saw them.
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Well, I keep hearing the producers say that it's been 7 years since the Netflix shows and a lot can happen in that time, but actually if you take the blip into account it should be closer to 13 and even more can happen in that much time.
 
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Well, I keep hearing the producers say that it's been 7 years since the Netflix shows and a lot can happen in that time, but actually if you take the blip into account it should be closer to 13 and even more can happen in that much time.
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The daughter could almost be old enough to join Kamala’s new team that’s bound to get a show or a movie any moment now.
 
JD said:
I'm curious if Jessica's daughter is going to have a different from Luke, since never really had the kind of relationship that they had in the comics. I guess they could have gotten together again after we last saw them, but they seem to have by the last time we saw them.
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Oops, I didn't realize I missed so many words in this post. This is the problem when my brain is faster than my fingers. That was supposed to be "a different father", "since they never really", "gotten back together", and "seem to have moved on".
 
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