Dallas - Season 2

[Admiral2]

Wow, I didn't see it coming.
I just realized that J.R. could be
a) murdered
b) it could take until the end of the current series to resolve it

Well, really who cares how long it takes as long as it's riveting? i think the writers have got a shot at making this memorable.

Just a possibility in the sea of ideas to keep the show about JR even if he's not actually in it.
I would also go for some prolonged exploration of John Ross and Pamela. Each of them have heaps of crazy... both products of two bitter lifelong rivals. Could anyone see them getting married, producing a son and then of course getting down and dirty with drawn out divorces?

Well, on the divorce angle, screwing Christopher over's good practice for Pamela.

All of this has happened before... waitaminute!!

Spoiler: I've got it all figured out

Pamela Barnes = CYLON

Spoiler: Pamela Barnes...

PAMELA BARNES WAS CREATED BY CLIFF.

SHE REBELLED.

SHE EVOLVED.

SHE CARRIED BABIES THAT WERE TWO COPIES.

NOW PAMELA BARNES HAS RETURNED...

...AND SHE HAS A PLAN.

Anyway... does anyone else think we are going to get another "Who Shot JR?"

If the writers are smart. If they can't have JR himself they need to carry his name to the rest of the season...

 

[cardinal biggles]

J.R.'s funeral is already planned for episode 2x08, which airs on March 11th; the cause of his death will apparently be a mystery played out over the remainder of the season along with the other continuing plotlines.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Also: Heads up to anyone interested: Linda Gray and Patrick Duffy are on the cover of last week's TV Guide:

Article here.

A touching and informative article. Thanks for posting it. I didn't stop to think that they'd milk J.R.'s death. It's a great way to keep his spirit alive and ease into a Dallas without him.

I know that we all will miss Larry Hagman on Dallas, but I really do think that the new cast will be able to carry the show, which will result in very high ratings for TNT. I hope so anyway.

As do I.

Well now, Annie just turned into a real, real interesting character.

It looked like Ryland was dead, but with Mitch Pileggi's name in the opening credits, I figured that he couldn't be.

Every time I see Pamela Rebecca she reminds of both Denise Richards and Tricia Helfer, like if it were possible for those two actresses to have a love child together, it would grow up to be Julie Gonzalo.

I always think of Tricia Helfer too when I look at her. And in one scene, I thought she looked a bit like Jenna from the old show.

And another thing... Judith Light's character doesn't look old enough to be Harris Ryland's mother. I looked her up and Light is only three years older that Pileggi.

 

[Admiral2]

Every time I see Pamela Rebecca she reminds of both Denise Richards and Tricia Helfer, like if it were possible for those two actresses to have a love child together, it would grow up to be Julie Gonzalo.

I always think of Tricia Helfer too when I look at her.

For me it's Tricia's mouth and Denise's eyes.

And in one scene, I thought she looked a bit like Jenna from the old show.

That's the eyebrows...

And another thing... Judith Light's character doesn't look old enough to be Harris Ryland's mother. I looked her up and Light is only three years older that Pileggi.

I'm thinking she's had work done since he was born...

Most likely they couldn't find anyone old enough that fit the part, or simply were pressed to cast someone quickly, so they just decided to "old up" a veteran soap actress.

 

[doubleohfive]

I just had an interesting thought...

What if Ann is the same call girl Brenda Strong played on the old show?

Think about it.

Cliff hooked up with said call girl in the final season of the show (1990-1991) when he had, ostensibly, been dumped by Liz Adams.

It's unlikely Bobby would have met the Brenda Strong character then, but also very likely that Cliff would have forgotten all about her. Never mind the fact that Harris Ryland is just sleazy enough to have probably hooked up with her at the time too.

How fucked up would it be if Emma is really Cliff's daughter, and Ann played Harris into marrying her? Or, perhaps she really is Harris' daughter.

It would also explain why Judith despises Ann so much, and Emma's age works out almost perfectly for it as well.

I don't know that this isn't too farfetched an idea, but it's fun to think about!

 

[Admiral2]

I just had an interesting thought...

What if Ann is the same call girl Brenda Strong played on the old show?

Think about it.

Cliff hooked up with said call girl in the final season of the show (1990-1991) when he had, ostensibly, been dumped by Liz Adams.

It's unlikely Bobby would have met the Brenda Strong character then, but also very likely that Cliff would have forgotten all about her. Never mind the fact that Harris Ryland is just sleazy enough to have probably hooked up with her at the time too.

How fucked up would it be if Emma is really Cliff's daughter, and Ann played Harris into marrying her? Or, perhaps she really is Harris' daughter.

It would also explain why Judith despises Ann so much, and Emma's age works out almost perfectly for it as well.

I don't know that this isn't too farfetched an idea, but it's fun to think about!

Farfetched? Hell, that's the most logical origin story anybody's come up with since Ann was introduced.

 

[doubleohfive]

I have to correct myself. I mistakenly wrote that Brenda Strong appeared on the original series in 1991. That was incorrect. She actually appeared on the old show in the 1987 episode "Cat and Mouse."

So, it's been a little too long I think for Emma to be Cliff's daughter, but it still leaves open the possibility that Ann is the call girl character from the old show as I theorized above.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Now how'd they get Frank's prints on that gun? Or did he just handle it after the fact? I can't remember.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Frank cleaned up both the body and Pamela's apartment after she shot Tommy, but I can't believe he'd be so stupid as to not wipe the gun down before burying it.

I'm definitely sorry to see Frank go. I really enjoyed seeing Faran Tahir on the show.

Meanwhile, next week's episode is the last one completed by Larry Hagman before his death.

 

[Agent Richard07]

^ Damn. I thought we had two more.

Good episode, but why would Bobby confess to shooting Harris if he wasn't dead? That wouldn't have saved Ann because for all they knew, he could have woken up and said it was her.

 

[cardinal biggles]

There's apparently some cut footage of J.R. from one of the five episodes that will be worked into episode six. He doesn't appear in episode seven, and episode eight is the funeral.

I don't understand why Ryland fingered Bobby when he woke up. That makes no sense at all. It's not like Ann shot him from the shadows.

 

[wissaboo]

There's apparently some cut footage of J.R. from one of the five episodes that will be worked into episode six. He doesn't appear in episode seven, and episode eight is the funeral.

I don't understand why Ryland fingered Bobby when he woke up. That makes no sense at all. It's not like Ann shot him from the shadows.

because his psycho mother told him to. This way they get to continue to torment her.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

^ Yep, I figured mother Bates & her son did some talking before the cops came in.

 

[Admiral2]

^^Yep, and if you ask me mother and son are waaaay too close...

 

[wissaboo]

^^Yep, and if you ask me mother and son are waaaay too close...

creepy close


but then, they are only 3 years apart in age

 

[Borjis]

^ They might have been considering recasting Jock, at least for a little while. Jim Davis would have been a tough act to follow, but it's more typically soap opera to recast a character.

Absolutely.

Jock was one of my favorite characters of all in Dallas.

my favorite moments when he gets pissed.
Jock: "J.R. just what the hell are you doing!?!?!?"

Seeing J.R. with his shit eating grin or look of "oh shit!"...I'm really going to miss that most.

 

[Keith1701]

The new second season of the new Dallas is looking better and better. I think the writers are doing a great job, and the actors are Outstanding. We should have at least one more episode with Larry Hagman, but I still think the new cast with be able to carry the show even without Larry. It makes me sad to think about Dallas without JR, but seeing this new cast and great stories, I think the new Dallas could go on for at least 5 more seasons on TNT. Well, I hope so anyway.

 

[Admiral2]

When Anne was getting led off to the prison truck, was anyone else thinking "Damn, that woman is tall. She should just overpower the guards and run!"

 

[wissaboo]

When Anne was getting led off to the prison truck, was anyone else thinking "Damn, that woman is tall. She should just overpower the guards and run!"

I've been thinking that aboout a lot of people. The actors who play Christopher and Jon Ross always look so short but they are 5'10" and 5'11". I've been spending all this time wondering why they cast such short actors to play Bobby and JR's sons.


I think Anne's gonna get shanked in prison.

 

[Admiral2]

When Anne was getting led off to the prison truck, was anyone else thinking "Damn, that woman is tall. She should just overpower the guards and run!"

I've been thinking that aboout a lot of people. The actors who play Christopher and Jon Ross always look so short but they are 5'10" and 5'11". I've been spending all this time wondering why they cast such short actors to play Bobby and JR's sons.


I think Anne's gonna get shanked in prison.

Nahh, she's too good-lookin'. When they finally spring her she's gonna come out with cornrows in her hair and a new wife of her own.