Yep, direct brain to brain communication via computers has been done...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091006102637.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091006102637.htm
Cybernetic hive-minds a step closer...
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This looks like it could be used for mind-control...
Not bad - computers are progressing really rapidly.
Just a question, in the future if brain implants become part of the computer network, would you have such a device surgically implanted. definitely Not me
Who says you'd have a choice?
"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile...."
How's that exactly? Besides the mere fact there's a one-way link from a brain to a computer. There's nothing in the article to suggest that a machine would have a chance at even influencing brain activity
Especially since most of these experiments rely on a person having to use an 'analogue' method of controlling the computer, for example in the article, left arm up equals '0', left arm down equals '1'. You'd need to know how every single signal in a person brain is mapped before you even have a chance at that.
SilentP,
I suppose you're right, I may have overreacted. However the fact that data can be put inside a person's brain without them having any awareness of it *if* it could be used to actually manipulate the person's thinking would be very dangerous. They wouldn't know they were being manipulated.
CuttingEdge100
I suppose you're right, I may have overreacted. However the fact that data can be put inside a person's brain without them having any awareness of it *if* it could be used to actually manipulate the person's thinking would be very dangerous. They wouldn't know they were being manipulated.
CuttingEdge100
NX-1701G
Hard to tell which is worse!
So are we building the Matrix now... pity I was hoping for Skynet...
Hard to tell which is worse!
I don't like this...I think we are doomed. 
What is the benefit of doing this? Is it worth it?
S.
What is the benefit of doing this? Is it worth it?
S.
I didn't get the impression that the data input was done subliminally, but directly through the LED.
Fair enough though.
Lindley,
There are two fates which I think would be the worst for mankind. Being Eradicated, or being put in some kind of Matrix.
There are two fates which I think would be the worst for mankind. Being Eradicated, or being put in some kind of Matrix.
FILE > SAVE AS > HUMAN.borg
Click.
I think that someday we will become one with our technological progress and entirely cease to be organic lifeforms. At some point beyond that time, we will further evolve beyond our mechanization and exist in an essentially formless manner as a fluid entity absorbed into the great unknown of space. At that point we will exist to seed new life throughout the universe, which will begin its own evolutionary process anew.
Click.
I think that someday we will become one with our technological progress and entirely cease to be organic lifeforms. At some point beyond that time, we will further evolve beyond our mechanization and exist in an essentially formless manner as a fluid entity absorbed into the great unknown of space. At that point we will exist to seed new life throughout the universe, which will begin its own evolutionary process anew.
Reading Kurtzweil, have you?
Um... It said that the LED flashes were too subtle to be noticed by the second person, that they were picked up by electrodes measuring the visual cortex... how is that brain to brain connectivity? If the second person can't detect it and needs a computer to tell them that they received that information, then I don't really consider that to be true Brain to Brain communication...
Not to mention, the second person has to be watching the LED in order to even receive the information. That's no more Brain to Brain communication here than two people sending each other Morse Code! Only one of them is actually hooked up to the computer to send data, the other only has a computer monitoring them. They aren't hooked up to it for sending and receiving data through it.
This isn't really much more than a demonstration of a brain can send shit into a computer, and a brain can pick up on things that a mind can't.
Not to mention, the second person has to be watching the LED in order to even receive the information. That's no more Brain to Brain communication here than two people sending each other Morse Code! Only one of them is actually hooked up to the computer to send data, the other only has a computer monitoring them. They aren't hooked up to it for sending and receiving data through it.
This isn't really much more than a demonstration of a brain can send shit into a computer, and a brain can pick up on things that a mind can't.
I think Ray Kurzweill's ideas are over the top
Supreme Admiral
Captain
I don't like this...I think we are doomed.
What is the benefit of doing this? Is it worth it?
S.
We're doomed from the very beginning. What of their gain of doing this on a greater purpose to do this cybernetic hive minds? That's creepy subject I don't ever want to discuss to begin with. It's not funny anymore.
Supreme Admiral,
Isn't the purpose of technology to help mankind?
If we end up creating something that could be used to deprive every aspect of privacy for all of mankind, and even open up the door to mind-control, that doesn't sound all that helpful and sounds destructive.
CuttingEdge100
Isn't the purpose of technology to help mankind?
If we end up creating something that could be used to deprive every aspect of privacy for all of mankind, and even open up the door to mind-control, that doesn't sound all that helpful and sounds destructive.
CuttingEdge100
