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Custom TOS Federation Class Dreadnaught

JJohnson

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An alternate take on the Federation Class TOS Era Dreadnaught. I never liked the backwards-facing deflector dish and kind of goofy saucer shape, so I fixed it. The ship now has:
-5 phaser banks dorsal and ventral
-fore and aft shuttlebay are aligned so a shuttle can fly straight through if needed, aiding in launch and recovery at the same time.
-saucer has the same top protrusion instead of the cut-in of the Constitution, allowing more internal volume
-Bridge complex has dual turbolifts and an officer's lounge, the prototype for the one on the Constitution Refit.
-Saucer can separate and maintain warp with its nacelle.
-Photon Torpedo launchers relocated to the neck, giving more internal volume in the saucer for crew and equipment (I never liked phasers and torpedoes coming from the exact same spot every episode...it's like the Enterprise only have 1 phaser bank, so if an enemy hung out behind the ship, it could always avoid being hit)
-Secondary Hull resized in the fore view
-Saucer resized in all views to match
-third nacelle got the inner greeble detail on top which was missing from the base image I used to start the project.
 
it was never a deflector dish
What was it? I honestly thought the dishes were supposed to be deflector dishes, so having one in the back just seemed weird. To me it looked like the ship was going to travel backwards and need to deflect oncoming interstellar particles.
 
What was it? I honestly thought the dishes were supposed to be deflector dishes, so having one in the back just seemed weird. To me it looked like the ship was going to travel backwards and need to deflect oncoming interstellar particles.

In TOS most concept drawings identify the dish as the "main sensor" and there was no mention of a deflector dish in the series. Kirk's Enterprise did fly in reverse quite a few times in the series though.
 
What was it? I honestly thought the dishes were supposed to be deflector dishes, so having one in the back just seemed weird. To me it looked like the ship was going to travel backwards and need to deflect oncoming interstellar particles.
he didn't actually label the aft dish, but since it's the same size as the one on the bow end, which is labelled "Main Sensor", it's logical to believe it's another of the same power. You'll notice the two smaller dishes are labelled "Tractor Beam" and "Main Deflector", respectively.

it's possible Franz Joseph was the first one to assign that role to a dish. or at least, put it out there for others' purview


In TOS most concept drawings identify the dish as the "main sensor" and there was no mention of a deflector dish in the series
they even considered having it "sweep" back and forth, iirc the sketches.
 
For the sake of comparison, it might be worth taking a look at the 3D models which Will McCammon drew up both for the "Franz Joseph" dreadnought, and for the "ADB" guided weapons dreadnought, for use back on the old Shapeways 1.0 storefront for Amarillo Design Bureau.

While not the same as post-1979 Franchise canon, the Star Fleet Universe leans more heavily into the legacy left by the Star Fleet Technical Manual. Even so, while the Shapeways 1.0 minis marked as "FJ" were drawn up to match the original blueprints as closely as possible, the "ADB" iteration minis were set to match the weapon and system loadouts shown on the Ship System Displays in Star Fleet Battles, or the Squadron Scale Ship Cards of Federation Commander.

For example: in the case of the "FJ" DN, the photon torpedo mounts on the saucer are shown as the same kind of "bumps" as used for the phasers. However, on the "ADB" DNG, the photons are shown as recessed tubes - in this case, housed in a "gun deck" below the bridge section facing forward. (Most Fed ships in the SFU which have secondary hulls do not install photon "gun decks" on them, though there are a handful of exceptions.)

Furthermore, the DNG - which, in the SFU, is two rounds of refits removed from the "Middle Years" DN - both deletes the aft dish on the secondary hull and moves the shuttle bay to that location. Also, certain weapons which are used by Federation ships in the SFU, such as drone racks, are marked, though they cannot be seen from the viewing angle shown in the link above.

The DNG also "flattens" the port and starboard nacelle struts.

As an aside, the rules in SFB permit both the DN and the later DNG to separate their saucers while retaining the use of their respective centre warp engines. This is done only in emergencies, however; the saucer and the secondary hull typically require the use of a shipyard in order to be put back together.

There are a few Fed ships in the SFU which have "tunnel decks" in their secondary hulls; these tend to be used as carrier variants. An example of this is the heavy cruiser-sized strike carrier, as shown here. (Speaking of carriers, the secondary hull of the dreadnought-sized heavy carrier has port and starboard "balconies" for its fighter bays, plus a double-sized set of shuttle bay doors to aft.)

Not that any of the above need matter for the project as being outlined here, of course. But, on the off chance it was worth taking a closer look at...
 
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