Current status of the subculture of "Trekkies"???
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I'm guessing you're too young to know much about the TOS vs TNG debates. Here's a brief guide to Star Trek fandom:
You forgot that in TNG there were lengthy conferences on how to handle the situation of the week. Like, they took up the whole show or something. 
I am stealing this.I'm guessing you're too young to know much about the TOS vs TNG debates. Here's a brief guide to Star Trek fandom:
But the addition of "And no one cares what you think" after the last line would make it perfect.
If STAR TREK isn't intended for the general public, it's just preaching to the converted.
To be honest (and I realise I'm probably in something of a minority), after TOS, TNG, VOY & ENT I'm a bit 'done' with planet of the week stuff. It's probably one of the main reasons I love DS9 so much, and I think that an ongoing narrative plays into audience expectations and how people watch shows now.
I'm enjoying Trek as an ongoing drama in Discovery. Political themes and character driven storytelling works for me and certainly doesn't rule out stand alone 'strange new worlds' along the way, but would I like to go back to arriving somewhere new each week and a soft reset at the end of each episode ? No, not at all.
Trek is on Netflix over here and fits in nicely with the other 'genre' shows available. Fandom doesn't seem so 'Trek vs Star Wars' or vs anything for that matter. Fans are exposed to a wide variety of shows on demand. I think that's healthy.
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I think the beginning of the end of the sub-culture was when that stupid poll was made about STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS. And for what? An attempt to payback Bad Robot for not only "reboot" the franchise, but for producing a derivative film? But what's worse was how the older fans were acting like the franchise was theirs alone, creating a toxic environment that turned away potentially new fans. So, yeah. The shenanigans from CBS/Paramount might have hurt the franchise, but we fans might have KILLED it.
Whatever state the Trek franchise is in is because of the producers and execs who run it at CBS and Paramount. Not the fans. The fans, to be blunt are a meaningless factor.
To be fair, not just a Trekkie thing. Just the other day I was debating some literary SF folks who were convinced that the genre belonged to old-school "fandom" and that newcomers needed to show respect when venturing onto "our" turf, as though it was our own exclusive, snobbish little clique with its own rules and traditions.
Gatekeeping sucks.
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Agree. I love Star Trek, but at this phase of the game, I like different takes on Star Trek even more.
I remember a huge complaint after the first few episodes of TNG was how many times Picard had already surrendered.You forgot that in TNG there were lengthy conferences on how to handle the situation of the week. Like, they took up the whole show or something.
Why? There must be something more interesting to write a paper about.
Oh, it's definitely interesting. I don't know what you are going to get out of us, though.
Maybe try listing some questions for people to answer about being a Trek fan?
Denise Crosby (Tasha Yar) made two entertaining films about the fans: Trekkies and Trekkies 2. The third appears to be in development hell. Anyway, if anything, if you can find those films they might provide some insight.
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The image KDB posted above is pretty funny, but there is some truth amongst the complaints listed there. Trek has its fair share of shitty writing and boneheaded decisions by the studio guys and producers. Occasionally, I think they would have been better served to listen to their fans.
There is a sweet spot between arthouse stuff that only people who chuckle ironically at New Yorker cartoons will watch and scripts whose main appeal is for people of the "T'Pol is hot! That ship blowed up real good!" variety. I just think Trek has moved a little too far in the mindless Independence Day popcorn flick direction. Action is good. Mindless action not so much.
The image KDB posted above is pretty funny, but there is some truth amongst the complaints listed there. Trek has its fair share of shitty writing and boneheaded decisions by the studio guys and producers. Occasionally, I think they would have been better served to listen to their fans.
There is a sweet spot between arthouse stuff that only people who chuckle ironically at New Yorker cartoons will watch and scripts whose main appeal is for people of the "T'Pol is hot! That ship blowed up real good!" variety. I just think Trek has moved a little too far in the mindless Independence Day popcorn flick direction. Action is good. Mindless action not so much.
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