Court Martial is really an odd episode
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Also, Stone turns first to one side (Lindstrom) and then the other side (Krasnovsky and Chandra) as he introduces the members of the court and the blue-uniformed officer nods his head just as Stone says "Krasnovsky." The body language would be exceedingly odd if the names were another way.
It seems that Stone introduces the court by job rather than rank titles, so the "Space Command representative" is probably a captain and perhaps a former starship captain as well. As to why a starship captain would wear a blue uniform, I've always thought that the uniforms colors were less a part of a regulated, career-defined system than a "localized" way to show current assignment. Different commands may have even used the colors differently, though I doubt there would be too much variation. Just as Spock was an XO who wore blue and Stone was a CO who wore red, perhaps Krasnovski was captain of a starship that was currently assigned to purely scientific research and wore blue to reflect that status.
Justin
But that's another piece of information we can ignore, as the credits and other backstage factors are not part of the Star Trek universe as such.
Now that's in-universe evidence we should take into account.
Or the colors may have marked different things at different times. In the STXI version of the 2230s, blue appeared to be related to command; perhaps Krasnovsky's command dates back to that time, and he's long since retired (but still eligible for this particular duty)?
Timo Saloniemi
Excuse me?
Credits are absolute. There can be no ambiguity - either Krasnovsky was played by Bart Conrad or he was not. We know he was. So what's to ignore? It'd be like "ignoring" that Kirk was played by William Shatner.
Credits can contain errors, yes. When they do, they must be corrected. But they can't be summarily dismissed as "never canon", like Timo just suggested.
Like I said: Either Captain Krasnovsky was played by actor Bart Conrad, or he was not. The credits say he was. It hasn't been proven otherwise. Therefore those credits are not a mistake, and are definitive.
Like I said: Either Captain Krasnovsky was played by actor Bart Conrad, or he was not. The credits say he was. It hasn't been proven otherwise. Therefore those credits are not a mistake, and are definitive.
It'd be like "ignoring" that Kirk was played by William Shatner.
But we have to ignore that blatant falsehood, because in the Star Trek universe, Kirk was only ever played by Kirk, and by Janice Lester.
If we start thinking in terms of actors, we have to start believing that the Enterprise is made of plywood and every evil Klingon plot was in fact masterminded by a villain called Roddenberry.
Who played Krasnovsky doesn't matter, on a great many levels. I couldn't tell that actor from Adam so the name is irrelevant to me. Krasnovsky could have reappeared and been played by a different actor and that, too, would be irrelevant. The writer could have hand-picked the actor for this role and invented a backstory for him, and that, too, would be irrelevant. In-universe, only that which is seen or said is of any relevance. What is done backstage to accomplish this is intended to remain hidden forever.
Timo Saloniemi
It'd be like "ignoring" that Kirk was played by William Shatner.
But we have to ignore that blatant falsehood, because in the Star Trek universe, Kirk was only ever played by Kirk, and by Janice Lester.
Exactly. Just like in this case, Krasnovsky was only ever played by Bart Conrad.
Whether credits are *important*, is debatable. Probably most people don't care who plays background roles like this. But unless there's a reason to believe otherwise, the credits are *definitive*. If the credits say a character is played by a certain person, then they are. You don't have to care that they are, but that doesn't change the fact THAT they are.
Besides, weren't you the one who was questioning which one of the officers on the court was which? There's your answer. You may prefer to believe otherwise, but you would not be correct.
We have no evidence for this. As far as the episode goes, Krasnovsky was only ever played by Krasnovsky.
Nope. It happens to give the same answer as the correct in-universe one, but by means that don't count and can't be trusted to produce correct answers. No different from finding the right village on the face of Earth on the theory that North on the map is down, when the result only stems from the village happening to be in the middle of the map and immune to such misconceptions...
Stone's gesturing is what makes the difference here. That's in-universe stuff. The TV show itself isn't.
Timo Saloniemi
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