I don't know if post TOS any of these two races are friendly to the Federation because we've never seen them since TOS but I wonder if asked nicely they'd have the power to kick the Borg back to the stoneage?
Could the Organians or Kelvans kick the Borg's ass?
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Yes
But would they want to.
But would they want to.
I don't know, I guess if they had human like emotions they could do it for shits and giggles or to show how much dakka they have
The Organians for sure. Not so sure about the Kelvans.
Howcome they only appeared just once in TOS and were never heard from again? Same for the Kelvans with ships moving all over the galaxy you'd think people would have bumped into either race.
The Organians were in Enterprise, Doing there Experiments. But they have a general Non Interference policy. Maybe they were aware of "possible Future" and intervened to correct a bad future? Maybe??
There are plenty of Non Corporial beings around the galaxy, why they didn't do anything about the borg and other beligerant speices? No idea! NOT in the Plot!
There are plenty of Non Corporial beings around the galaxy, why they didn't do anything about the borg and other beligerant speices? No idea! NOT in the Plot!
The Organians were in Enterprise, Doing there Experiments. But they have a general Non Interference policy. Maybe they were aware of "possible Future" and intervened to correct a bad future? Maybe??
There are plenty of Non Corporial beings around the galaxy, why they didn't do anything about the borg and other beligerant speices? No idea! NOT in the Plot!
I have Enterprise. How did I not know they were Organians?
No doubt. As seen in "Errand of Mercy", technology--no matter how formidable--did not pose a threat to the Organians, and with the Borg's existence based on technological assimilation / supremacy, their number one offense would be reduced to nothing, with each Borg turned into half-living objects just floating around with no purpose.
Which is exactly what happens to them in the novelverse when the Caelier remove all Borg technology from the universe in moments. The Collective are taken away by them to be healed and live as a new race.
Several races, beings, entities have the ability to stop the Borg instantly.
Which makes the Q fear of both El-Aurians and the Borg very odd. The weaker Voyager made them out to be, the more Q wanted Starfleet to stay away from them. Maybe afraid he'd be made to actually fix his own mess?
Several races, beings, entities have the ability to stop the Borg instantly.
Which makes the Q fear of both El-Aurians and the Borg very odd. The weaker Voyager made them out to be, the more Q wanted Starfleet to stay away from them. Maybe afraid he'd be made to actually fix his own mess?
Q as a species exist can see time in different ways. We only see the El-Aurians when they are at arguably their lowest point, and Q is still scared of Guinan. Its possible the El Aurians could be a much greater force in some future diaspora, to be reckoned with.
Here's the problem with that. The Borg destroy El-Auria in 2293, possibly knowing that they become a powerful race n the future. But if they can see forward in time, they know what the Enterprise D and E, and Voyager do. They see the destruction of their entire transwarp network in 2377, their absorption by the Caelier in 2381.
If the Borg stopped an ascension, or put it off by centuries. Why is Q still physically afraid of Guinan as if she can shrug off his powers in 2365?
Nothing makes sense about who fears who, why and when.
Well given that in "Q-Who" Guinan made what looked like a defensive 'ready to cast something' gesture in Ten-Forward when Q appeared there - I think maybe the TNG Producers had something more in mind RE; El-Alurian abilities.
As for the Borg - give that Q snapped the 170-D out of danger as quickly as he snapped them into it; I never had a feeling Q (or anyone in the Q Continuum) feared the Borg in any way.
The Organians could take care of the Borg but only if they were threatened and as we saw in Errand of Mercy their people were not harmed in any way despite the Klingons believing they had executed crowds of them! If the Borg invaded en masse then maybe they would act? The Kelvans are three centuries at least from the Milky Way and their physical appearance and powers are best left to the imagination! Think of a Kelvan device reducing a Borg to a cube, would it be full of metal bits? 
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I don't think the Q are scared of the Borg as such but more that Q warned his son not to provoke them or they would go apeshit on the lower races and he'd have to clean up that mess because they would have attacked other worlds by being provoked.
On the other hand imagine a conversation between Q and the Borg Queen.
On the other hand imagine a conversation between Q and the Borg Queen.
I never thought that Q feared the Borg. He was simply trying to show Picard that the Federation should.
No that scene in Voyager where Q tells his son not to provoke the Borg
Q was trying to show Picard that his and the Federation's victories over the Klingons and the Romulans were paltry trophies against the threat of the Borg!
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Q was trying to show Picard that his and the Federation's victories over the Klingons and the Romulans were paltry trophies against the threat of the Borg!
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I get that, that's the message in "Q Who" but in Voyager he tells his son not to provoke the Borg. Why would you need to bother?
Even a junior Q could turn a cube into a keychain what could they possibly do?
OMG Imagine carrying a keychain of a live Borg Cube... Awesome
Maybe the Borg might destroy a civilization that the Q were very concerned about and he would suffer their wrath for interfering?
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