The Borg cube arrived in Romulan space before the nova and the Federation was assisting with them anyway, so Soji could still work there.
Could Star Trek be Re-rebooted?
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I consider SNW to be a reboot, so changes in canon there don't bother me. I can split the two as long as the major stuff happens. Still don't like the Gorn but if past trends are an indication, there will be Gorn crew within 20 years.
I don't see the Romulan Star Empire cooperating with the Federation like the Romulan Free State did, though I looked it up and you're right about the Romulans getting the cube before the supernova. Assuming the sign saying 16 years since an assimilation is accurate.
It was literally stated in dialogue the Cube arrived during the Star Empire's days, and that they sought Federation assistance regarding the cube. The Free State merely continued the same deal the Star Empire already had with the Federation.
PIC S1 was a mess.
My alternate Trek timeline has the cool uniforms I designed instead of jumpsuits in the 24th century, Romulus's sun never went nova because that's just a plot point to allow Trek '09 to happen; Archer never encountered Ferengi, Trip never pretended to die to join Section 31, and Voyager never did the Warp 10 jump, many FASA ships are in my timeline also, Starfleet is a bit more naval (they have an up-or-out doctrine so Riker can't sit at commander for 15 years, and MOS pins on dress uniforms), but I suspect all of us have their pick-and-choose head-canon.
KT happened, but current TPTB were too scared to go that route with DSC and made DSC the Prime Timeline.
That's where they messed up, having a knee jerk reaction to Beyond flopping.
Imagine if Marvel pivoted away after Iron Man 2 didn't live up to expectations.
I think Romulus would have eventually have joined the federation, through the re-joining with Vulcan ( this may have taken a century or two).
With the Alpha Quadrant being a more cohesive space, the Founders would not try to re-assert themselves into the Alpha Quadrant.
Perhaps the Federation would someday extend into the Gamma quadrant and absorb the Founders???
The whole point of this thread was to see if the timeline could be restored to the original Kirk timeline.
Or perhaps this is what was alluded to in Enterprise(?) about the temporal wars???
Maybe???
With the Alpha Quadrant being a more cohesive space, the Founders would not try to re-assert themselves into the Alpha Quadrant.
Perhaps the Federation would someday extend into the Gamma quadrant and absorb the Founders???
The whole point of this thread was to see if the timeline could be restored to the original Kirk timeline.
Or perhaps this is what was alluded to in Enterprise(?) about the temporal wars???
Maybe???
I hope it is rebooted in the future, they should reboot the whole thing in timeline order, starting with Reboot Enterprise and broadcast it on April 5th 2063
And yet somehow better than 2 or 3.
It's fiction, so of course it could. With only a few keystrokes.
What's a "Kirk timeline"? If its Prime, then there is nothing to be restored. Kirk's "timeline" takes place within the Prime timeline. His personal timeline ends in Generations with his death.
It seriously wasn't.
PIC S1 and S2 were the worst Treks set on screen this side of ENT finale.
I still have an affinity for J Michael Stracynski’s Star Trek: Reboot the Universe pitch he came up with 20 years ago. Strip the whole thing down to the essential elements of the original “magnificent seven,” the Enterprise, and start the whole concept over from zero and make a new canon of stories and worlds.
It's my opinion.
Until SEC31 it was pretty much the worst thing. Bad on every level. Upside was seeing the TNG cast.
The original Kirk timeline is supposed to be what we're seeing in all the TV series. It's gotten a bit fuzzy in Disco and SNW, but the 24th and 25th century shows are all set after TOS with William Shatner's Kirk. The Kelvin movies are a separate parallel universe so there's nothing that needs to be restored. At least, that's what's been said.
Honestly, I think Star Trek needed longer off air before it was rebooted. Like Dr Who, which was off air for 16 years before it was successfully rebooted. Trek needs to be allowed to fade away for a long time until nostalgia sets in and the audience out there has interest in something new. Having said that, I think ST09 was so successful because it felt so fresh and vibrant and new. And then they spoiled everything by doing a prequel series in the Prime timeline, with a visual reboot, which was bound to run people the wrong way - and boy did it!
The other trouble for Star Trek is the writing. Honestly, the new shows are totally eclipsed in this regard by The Expanse, Foundation, For All Mankind, Andor and Black Mirror to mention just a few. They need better writing teams (hello Ron Moore) and I think they need to start from scratch and get away from the fantasy nonsense and back to harder Sci-Fi ideas. I also wish they'd push the scientists in space angle and show a crew working together to solve problems. And I think that the humans should be shown as more evolved, like they were in TNG.
The other trouble for Star Trek is the writing. Honestly, the new shows are totally eclipsed in this regard by The Expanse, Foundation, For All Mankind, Andor and Black Mirror to mention just a few. They need better writing teams (hello Ron Moore) and I think they need to start from scratch and get away from the fantasy nonsense and back to harder Sci-Fi ideas. I also wish they'd push the scientists in space angle and show a crew working together to solve problems. And I think that the humans should be shown as more evolved, like they were in TNG.
I would like a clean-slate reboot of TOS, but can't see it happening under the current administration.
They won't pick up after one of the old shows and clean-slate it from there. Patrick Stewart isn't cheap, and they'll want to get their money's worth from that investment however it was perceived by fans.
They won't pick up after one of the old shows and clean-slate it from there. Patrick Stewart isn't cheap, and they'll want to get their money's worth from that investment however it was perceived by fans.
I agree with this take. Take Star Trek down to its base core, action/adventure, and optimistic viewpoint, create a show that is entirely rebooted from previous continuity. Stop the neverending dreadful questions of "Where's so and so?" Or "this technology is completely wrong for the time frame ."
Pull a Fallout or For All Mankind or whatever and say, "this is where the timeline split " and move it along. Simplify things for those needing the consistency of the background then tell your tales.
If you want a 'split timeline' Star Trek, the Kelvin Timeline is right there, hardly used.
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