Could having Seven and keeping Kes have worked?
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Having a bunch of women running from one edge of the screen to the other has always worked in these TV epics. This is how Commander Cody and 'Flash Gordon' began as well as a few others who didn't have enough money to expand nationally. If there were too many women they would take over the bill and the writers and producers also wanted to deal with technology.
it would have worked well. Harry for Kes was a horrible trade. Kes was becoming a very interesting character by season 3, it would have been cool to see where they took her, and to watch her play off of Seven.
Instead, we got Harry the "wet-behind-the ears even after seven years" Kim.
Instead, we got Harry the "wet-behind-the ears even after seven years" Kim.
Kes was one of my least favorite characters ever so I was super happy to see her go. She was too sweet, too naive-yet-wise and had little personality. I also never found her at all hot and can't quite wrap my head around that response. I've sorta warmed to her with repeated viewings but I really liked her best in Warlord when she wasn't Kes.
Duh.
We all liked her best wrapped in skin tight leather killing people.
But I'd be a pig to admit that.
So to not be thought of as the totter I am, myself and many other men have to pretend that we have always thought that she was doo-able, when really we're just turned on by almost any aggressive female sociopath dressed like a dominatrix.
Lying protects our image.
As a woman however Teacake you're keyed to destroy the opposition, so your brain is unequal parts of woo and smite as your genetic imperative competes with your sexual agenda when you're deciding how to categorise any eligible fresh meat newly making your acquaintance.
We all liked her best wrapped in skin tight leather killing people.
But I'd be a pig to admit that.
So to not be thought of as the totter I am, myself and many other men have to pretend that we have always thought that she was doo-able, when really we're just turned on by almost any aggressive female sociopath dressed like a dominatrix.
Lying protects our image.
As a woman however Teacake you're keyed to destroy the opposition, so your brain is unequal parts of woo and smite as your genetic imperative competes with your sexual agenda when you're deciding how to categorise any eligible fresh meat newly making your acquaintance.
The opposition being the men competing for Janeway's favors, right?
All the men and all the other lesbians.
Men you can throw in the sun.
No harm no foul.
But why smurf a perfectly intelligent and beautiful lesbian while you're waiting for Janeway when you could smurf a perfectly intelligent and beautiful lesbian while you're waiting for janeway?
Men you can throw in the sun.
No harm no foul.
But why smurf a perfectly intelligent and beautiful lesbian while you're waiting for Janeway when you could smurf a perfectly intelligent and beautiful lesbian while you're waiting for janeway?
Yes, it would have worked! 
It could have given us some good stories with Kes being the one to help Seven in her search for humanity.
Note that the initial idea was never to replace Kes with Seven. The initial idea was to bring in a Borg character and the decision to dump Kes was taken long after the decision to add Seven. Kim was the one to go and it went so far that they actually had him more and less leaving (Scorpion, part 1) before changing their minds (and the story) when "Scorpion, part 2" was going to be filmed.
Personally I think that they could have had 10 main characters, not dumping Kes, Kim or anyone. Since some of the writers in some mysterious way were starting to lose the ability to write for certain characters in the beginning of season 4, they could have saved some money by cutting down the writing staff.
Not to mention that it would have been great with 4 good looking female chararcters on the show!
It could have given us some good stories with Kes being the one to help Seven in her search for humanity.
Note that the initial idea was never to replace Kes with Seven. The initial idea was to bring in a Borg character and the decision to dump Kes was taken long after the decision to add Seven. Kim was the one to go and it went so far that they actually had him more and less leaving (Scorpion, part 1) before changing their minds (and the story) when "Scorpion, part 2" was going to be filmed.
Personally I think that they could have had 10 main characters, not dumping Kes, Kim or anyone. Since some of the writers in some mysterious way were starting to lose the ability to write for certain characters in the beginning of season 4, they could have saved some money by cutting down the writing staff.
Not to mention that it would have been great with 4 good looking female chararcters on the show!
Well there is the unwritten rule in Trek that no show will have more than three female regulars, I mean any more than that and it'll become a chick show and no one would want to watch it 
Both were more interesting than Kim, with lots of potential for development if handled right.
Seeing as how Kes and Seven are two totally different characters, with vastly different roles and duties, then there would have been enough for them to do.
Kim: Dull, boring, mummys boy
Kes: Kind, warm, caring, trainee-medic, developing bad-ass psionic abilities, pixie-like
Seven: Cold, clinical, standoff-ish, deus ex machina, with enormous breasts
Both were more interesting than Kim, with lots of potential for development if handled right.
Seeing as how Kes and Seven are two totally different characters, with vastly different roles and duties, then there would have been enough for them to do.
Kim: Dull, boring, mummys boy
Kes: Kind, warm, caring, trainee-medic, developing bad-ass psionic abilities, pixie-like
Seven: Cold, clinical, standoff-ish, deus ex machina, with enormous breasts
But think of the boner the Borg would have gotten upon finding the Ocampa.
A cow species that with the slightest nudge could manifest god like powers.
Drones with the biological powers enough to fight staships bare handed?
Hell.
If they started to think of godlike powers as a minimum requirement to become a borg Drone, what actually would the Borg need with the biological distinctiveness of any ungodlike species?
The assimilation of Ocampa could have saved the Galaxy.
A cow species that with the slightest nudge could manifest god like powers.
Drones with the biological powers enough to fight staships bare handed?
Hell.
If they started to think of godlike powers as a minimum requirement to become a borg Drone, what actually would the Borg need with the biological distinctiveness of any ungodlike species?
The assimilation of Ocampa could have saved the Galaxy.
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