Could Discovery/Pike lead to a return to Primeverse movies?

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

Movies are more accessible and reach a bigger and more diverse audience, IMO. You pay one ticket and go watch it with your friends, kids or significant other (or alone) and it's over. You like it, can buy the DVD and watch it at home again. It's a complete, self-contained experience that I wouldn't say it's now 'outdated' or replaced by TV or streaming services. There is something magic about watching movies at the cinema too that I wouldn't want to lose, it cannot get replaced no matter how big or technologic your home theater is.

I don't see why trek should be out of that and become a niche thing only available to a selected audience.
Those who watch current TV trek may forget it or not realize it, but probably most of the audience of the movies doesn't even watch Discovery&co. It doesn't exist for them.
It's bittersweet for me that current TV trek essentially is only something that younger audiences can watch if their parents can afford to pay for a streaming service or are willing to. Don't make the mistake of assuming this is a given and most of the people get access to these things.
Streaming TV is improving and becoming popular and accessible, but I'd be careful believing it has really became the default and main way to release content to the public.

If streaming TV was truly 'enough' you wouldn't still have movies that make billions in few weeks. Disney and marvel wouldn't bother still making movies released the 'old fashioned way'.

I'm still hopeful that at least after season 3 of DSC, CBS will put season 1 on Netflix to give it wider exposure while still giving people an incentive to get their streaming service to view the rest of the series.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Pike is a good selling point to the most loyal part of the ST base, but the general public doesn't even know who that is. It would still have to be Kirk's face all over the posters..

yes exactly, (new) Kirk would be the star (the new Bond as it were)..Peck/Mount/Mystique would be the supporting cast (maybe Issacs/Yeoh could pop up too). whichever 'A'list stars they could get for Kodos and a Captain/Admiral (e.g. Russell Crowe as Kodos. Tom Hanks as Capt Garrovick) which would be like extended cameos so they wouldn't taint their image with headlining a Star Trek movie lol.. and then youd have the main threat that would bring Kirk into play with Spock/Pike who would be another corrupt Admiral or another Khan like madman out for revenge lol (a Bana/Cumberbatch/Elba level of star power) and then for Bones, Scotty, Uhura etc theyd probably be just cameos until they get the proper roles in sequels (so like Urban/Pegg/Saldana when they were cast in ST09. some recognisable but not stars. same for Kirk ) plus maybe Gary Mitchell and Carol could have extended/supporting roles (whichever famous fanboy/girl actors who looks abit like a young Gary Lockwood/Bibi Besch).. also could cast actors who looked a tad more like the original cast (more so than ST09)

Movies are more accessible and reach a bigger and more diverse audience, IMO. You pay one ticket and go watch it with your friends, kids or significant other (or alone) and it's over. You like it, can buy the DVD and watch it at home again. It's a complete, self-contained experience that I wouldn't say it's now 'outdated' or replaced by TV or streaming services. There is something magic about watching movies at the cinema too that I wouldn't want to lose, it cannot get replaced no matter how big or technologic your home theater is.

I don't see why trek should be out of that and become a niche thing only available to a selected audience.
Those who watch current TV trek may forget it or not realize it, but probably most of the audience of the movies doesn't even watch Discovery&co. It doesn't exist for them.
It's bittersweet for me that current TV trek essentially is only something that younger audiences can watch if their parents can afford to pay for a streaming service or are willing to. Don't make the mistake of assuming this is a given and most of the people get access to these things.
Streaming TV is improving and becoming popular and accessible, but I'd be careful believing it has really became the default and main way to release content to the public.

If streaming TV was truly 'enough' you wouldn't still have movies that make billions in few weeks. Disney and marvel wouldn't bother still making movies released the 'old fashioned way'.

exactly. I had to wait until STD hit dvd to check it out (unavoidably spoiled. and its the same now with S2. theres just no way you can stay away from spoilers for streaming stuff like is possible with movies) and yes as 'movie quality' the Trek tv series get they just cant replace the thrill of going to see a 'Star Trek Movie' at the cinema. ..

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Why not make it another reality in text too then? Especially when jj&Co kindly created one already?
I dunno, this fixation with the prime timeline label seems disingenuos and pointless.

Businesses follow the money--and public interest. For the Star Trek franchise, its prime universe, with a focus on TOS in particular, as it was and remains the cultural face of the franchise that needs next to no introduction in markets around the world. Its the reason JJTrek was greenlit, why Discovery was a TOS prequel, why Enterprise's most popular episodes (arguably) were the 2-part, TOS-centric "In a Mirror, Darkly." While the Picard and Section 31 series are on the way, the majority of ST productions--in one way or another--refer to the prime universe with a TOS leaning.

Agree 100% on Shatner's Kirk. He was an excellent leader, tactician, decent diplomat, and his intellect exceeded his shirt off Gorn fighting & sexual persona
That Kirk was a true leader

No doubt about that.

 

[Ralphis]

This might be more of an idea for the IDW comics, the novelverse, or locked up in the files of "Fan Wank" forever , but I think it would be fun to have some sort of a crossover between Prime Pike Enterprise and Kelvin Kirk Enterprise.

If you recall, in the Kelvin timeline, Kirk takes command of the Enterprise much, much sooner than he does in the Prime timeline. In the Prime timeline, Pike is commanding the Enterprise up until about 2263 or 2264.

Suppose that in 2260 or 2261 there was some sort of an anomaly that brought the two ships together. Kelvin Kirk can't help be get a little emotional over seeing Pike again, despite the fact that it's "his" Pike. And Prime Pike is impressed with Kelvin Kirk to the point begins to follow the career of Prime Kirk. Prime Kirk mentions that he meant Pike once when he was promoted to Fleet Captain. Maybe Pike arranged that meeting? Maybe it was Pike's plan all along to make Kirk his successor, with Spock the First Officer, based on his experience with the Kelvin timeline crew? I just think it would be a fun story.

 

[Ralphis]

If anything, this merger (if it happens, which I doubt) will lead to Trek telemovies on CBS-AA. Which would be very cool.

I could see a moderately budgeted Pike movie happening. But I think it's better they release it as a CBS All Access / Netflix Original film, with a small theatrical run for die-hard fans, as the economics of doing that are better.

This would be my guess too.

This is all unfounded speculation, but with Bad Robot and Paramount's relationship seemingly to be wrapping up, a Paramount and CBS merger actually more likely now, Star Trek Beyond's poor box office results, and CBS Films being absorbed into CBS All Access with the goal of creating original films exclusively to stream on CBS All Access (similar the Netflix original movies) -- I can see CBS Films taking on Star Trek, and having it be a straight-to-streaming movie franchise for awhile.

This might actually be a more likely scenario if you want more Anson Mount "Pike". He seems to have greatly enjoyed playing Pike, but weary about doing another 13-14 episode season that shoots in Toronto. However, 2 or 3 streaming movies might be his thing.