So the Aaron that was born at the museum, that Claire, Kate, and Charlie looked at with unadulterated love, was no more real than the skeleton that PsychoClaire kept in a cradle on the island? Did they know it was nothing more than a manifestation of PsychoClaire's mommy fantasies, or did they believe it was real?
COp out just like BSG.
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^I'm thinking it's like Sixth Sense-with characters who don't know they are dead-and living a life like they had one.
That's how I interpret the flash-sideways. They all act like themselves, but in different situations, until they 'understand' and can move on. Like we saw Jack finally do-realize he was dead.
That's how I interpret the flash-sideways. They all act like themselves, but in different situations, until they 'understand' and can move on. Like we saw Jack finally do-realize he was dead.
When it comes to people, I define real as a sentient human being who exists in spacetime (as opposed to the concept of a sentient human being, or a dead body, etc). Cogitat, ergo est. When it comes to the Aaron of the Alt Universe, I am asking a two-part question:
1. Is he a real human?
2. Is he identical to the Aaron of the Island Universe?
If 1 is true but 2 is false, then Alt Aaron is a new human who was created as a result of his mother's participation in the afterlife prep course. Not a big deal, it just means dead people can get pregnant.
If 2 is true, then he is the "real Aaron." It's kind of creepy that he's forced to be a fetus again just to satisfy his mother's crossing-over experience, but I have heard many men secretly long to return to the womb.
If 1 is false, then he's a creepy jungle skeleton baby with more flesh.
1. Is he a real human?
2. Is he identical to the Aaron of the Island Universe?
If 1 is true but 2 is false, then Alt Aaron is a new human who was created as a result of his mother's participation in the afterlife prep course. Not a big deal, it just means dead people can get pregnant.
If 2 is true, then he is the "real Aaron." It's kind of creepy that he's forced to be a fetus again just to satisfy his mother's crossing-over experience, but I have heard many men secretly long to return to the womb.
If 1 is false, then he's a creepy jungle skeleton baby with more flesh.
I was indeed reminded of BSG's finale tonight. But I still gave this finale an average. It wasn't an excellent because I wasn't very impressed with the ending and was disappointed they left so many major questions unanswered (and still slightly irritated that as of "Across the Sea" were still just answering major questions with a bunch more questions), but it wasn't really bad either... Because little to no answer is better than an awful answer. The BSG finale, right down to the robot clip show, was one of the most vomit-inducing piles of crap ever produced. Everyone involved with that monstrosity should be ashamed.
So while Lost's finale wasn't great, I remind myself that there probably wasn't a lot they could do and with that in mind they did in an okay ending. It simply isn't in the same league of awfulness as Daybreak... not even close.
So while Lost's finale wasn't great, I remind myself that there probably wasn't a lot they could do and with that in mind they did in an okay ending. It simply isn't in the same league of awfulness as Daybreak... not even close.
I think the Lost writers, like the BSG writers, decided to focus on the characters in the finale and brush off most of the mystery angle by a "A Wizard Did It"-type non-explanation. On BSG, it was "God did it", on Lost, it was "The magical island did it."
All in all, I liked the Lost finale a lot more than the BSG finale, though, because the character aspect was handled a lot better and there weren't any moments that I downright hated.
One more thing the two shows have in common: In both cases, shows that were my all-time-favourites throughout most of their run fell significantly in my rating after their conclusion. I still think they were very well done for the most part, but ultimately unsatisfying.
All in all, I liked the Lost finale a lot more than the BSG finale, though, because the character aspect was handled a lot better and there weren't any moments that I downright hated.
One more thing the two shows have in common: In both cases, shows that were my all-time-favourites throughout most of their run fell significantly in my rating after their conclusion. I still think they were very well done for the most part, but ultimately unsatisfying.
I think a lot of people who are claiming they don't like it might like it a little more if they actually go back and listen to the conversation between Christian and Jack instead of freaking out that everyone has been dead all along.
I think most get that everyone hadnt been dead all along. The island wasnt hell or even heaven afterall.(Maybe created by god to protect the brimstone or whatever from becoming uncorked.
Cant believe that may be the only answer to the series) But almost everyone did die before their time with the exception of Hurley, Ben, Desmond and the few Ajira passengers. They killed almost every major character off then showed everyone in heaver waiting booth at the end.The finale as well as the season was a big FAIL for me.
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^^...and make shows like FACTS OF LIFE hit shows. LOST, BSG, even 24, are ultimately about people and become event TV shows.
Rob
Bingo!
That's a poor excuse, because you can have shows that have both satisfactory character and plot arcs. It's not like they are mutually exclusive.
With both shows, it seems clear that both shows had no idea what they were doing season to season. They had season arcs, but not a complete show arc. It's why these shows are all backloaded with exposition at the end.
That said, I at least appreciate the fact that Darlton chose to make the island a red herring. They lied when they said everything had a basis in real science and they lied when they said the island was important. At least they stuck to their guns with their, as Sawyer would put it, long con.
With both shows, it seems clear that both shows had no idea what they were doing season to season. They had season arcs, but not a complete show arc. It's why these shows are all backloaded with exposition at the end.
That said, I at least appreciate the fact that Darlton chose to make the island a red herring. They lied when they said everything had a basis in real science and they lied when they said the island was important. At least they stuck to their guns with their, as Sawyer would put it, long con.
The mysteries of the island only ever mattered insofar as they affected the emotional journeys of the characters. Locke's belief in pushing the button (or lack thereof) was far more compelling than understanding some technical explanation as to why the button needed to be pushed, for instance. Same thing with Hugo and the cursed numbers, Locke/Jack and the Hatch, etc.
The entire series was about the journeys of these characters. Calling the ending a cop out is just saying that you didn't understand the show you watched for six seasons.
The entire series was about the journeys of these characters. Calling the ending a cop out is just saying that you didn't understand the show you watched for six seasons.
It's a nonsensical question. This story was about a group of characters who landed on a magical island. It's hard to tell that story in a McDonalds. It was not, however, a story about the magical island (as some seem to wish that it was, for whatever reason). To reiterate, Hugo's belief in the cursed numbers, and ultimate growth as a result of overcoming that belief, was vital to the character. It doesn't matter if the numbers were actually cursed. It was his belief that was important to the character.
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