Or they just end up destroying the whole thing. They'll come up with some technobabble where they save the aliens living in it, but the whole network will be blown to smithereens.
Cool with Q, but not the spore drive? Interesting...
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Humans encountering advanced magical beings out in the depths of space is one thing. It's different when humans themselves at this point in the chronology invent advanced magical tech that's orders of magnitude outside the realm of anything else they will ever do for the next hundred years or so.
It's still kind of cool to look at.
Kor
It's still kind of cool to look at.
Kor
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I'm not fine with any of those characters/races, nor the spore drive, nor magical dilithium that somehow helps them go FTL, FTL in general, nor time travel, nor magical "subspace realms" where other aliens live and have the ability to visit our space. Not to mention I'm NOT fine with the idea of Earth as a utopian society, or the plethora of humanoid aliens with various foreheads, or the universal translator, or the practicality of transporters.
However, I'm a big fan of Star Trek!
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If whatever time-travel thing is going on this season or whatever wrong the Red Angel has to right comes to pass, then the whole issue of whether or not there should be a Spore Drive in the Mid-23rd Century could become moot.
I'm hoping this is not what happens, but it's a possibility they could always do that.
I'm hoping this is not what happens, but it's a possibility they could always do that.
I think they will somehow "break" it. They won't destroy the network, but the ability to use it for travel the way they did will somehow no longer be available, either forever or for a period of time that takes it out of the time period of any Star Trek -- say maybe 2000 or 5000 years.
That's a short time on cosmological scales, but beyond any existing (or even future) Star Trek series.
I imagine if they need it, they'll be riding the highway in the Picard series.
Well, the need for shared DNA with the mycelia combined with the obscure nature of the research that led to the drive might delay or even entirely derail parallel development. But I just had an idea I think is interesting about 25th century Klingons developing it independently or coming across the research somehow, and it working for some of them *because of the DNA from the Augment Virus*.
Yeah, but then any series that takes place after that would have the ability to travel anywhere instantly. If they do somehow lose the ability to use the network in DIS prior to the TOS era, and if an episode in the Picard series does later fix it and use it "because plot", I hope it would just be temporary fix that breaks again.
Isn't the Picard series potentially just a short limited series anyway? I'm think if it is just a single 10-hour (10-episode) movie, they already have the general plot laid out, and there might be no later plot reason that comes up that would use the spore drive.
So something will eventually happen to the network that will result in them losing the ability to use it for travel. And its use prior to that was classified.
Simples.
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If the network is self-aware then maybe it can prohibit access.
The network stays down for 140 years, until they get it back up. IT had its work cut out for them.
Took forever to get through to tech support.
This is more believable than some people would think.
And then all IT told them was "Did you try turning it off then turning it back on again?"
...which actually did the trick.
Who knew you could reboot a mycelial network?
Right, what? The argument stands. Fantasy has been all over all of Trek. You cool with that? If you're willing to cut any fantasy element in Trek slack, then that might not be the problem (hypothetical) you have with the spore drive. That's the point.
Remember when the Enterprise-D slingshot around the sun to change the past?
What about when Sisko modified the genesis technology to defeat the founders?
Or when a team when through the Guardian of Forever to stop voyager being lost.
Or when Riker passed through the barrier around the Universe and got super powers.
Maybe. It was never clear if it was simply a natural ability, or perhaps unseen technology.
The wouldn't be too much left. Gone arr transporters, warp drive, replicators, magic reset buttons etc..
Indeed, but some folks are missing the point. As I said in a reply, I can live with Q in the ST universe, but the whole point here is how some people are bashing a scientific method of space-time travel in favor of a non-scientific one.
To address other objections that were made, I mention the finger-snapping simply to illustrate the only technique given by Q to accomplish such marvels as time travel and instantaneous travel across the universe. And it wasn't simply a visual for the benefit of the humans. Every Q had a certain gesture they did, even when it was just Q-to-Q conversations. But I do also mention it as being a silly means of accomplishing unheard-of feats, equivalent to waving a magic wand.
As other people have said here, if you can give all of that a pass, don't hate on a scientific method in a sci-fi show.
Exactly. The Klingons were all worked up about the Genesis Device back in the movie era, and it was apparently front-page news across the galaxy, yet come the 24th century, nobody on any of the latter-day series ever mentioned it.
Why did none of the other galactic powers ever resort to the spore drive in the 24th century? Same reason that the Genesis Device was apparently forgotten after the fourth movie.
Don't see anyone arguing that TNG and its spawn aren't really "Prime" just because the Genesis Device is never mentioned.
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