I like the spore drive as well -- or at least I don't mind it.
But I'd also like it to go away (become impossible to use) prior to the TOS era, because the universe of TOS and onward didn't have anything like it.
Cool with Q, but not the spore drive? Interesting...
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But I'd also like it to go away (become impossible to use) prior to the TOS era, because the universe of TOS and onward didn't have anything like it.
You know a silly notion? I got off work a little while ago, a little tired... and I swear I read spore drive as 'sperm drive'.
I think sleep is needed at this point...
I think sleep is needed at this point...
Norman Spinrad, creator of "The Doomsday Machine," famously wrote a novel The Void Captain's Tale about an orgasm-powered space drive. I wrote a parody, about a catnip-powered space drive, that I sold to AMAZING STORIES back in the dawn of time . ....
Maybe I need to recycle that story as a Trek outline.
The Genesis Device couldn't be replicated again because the Klingons killed the one guy who knew how to actually create it (David).
Khan killed everybody else involved with the project at Regula-I (except Carol) and then destroyed all the relevant materials (which he had taken) when he set off the prototype device on the Reliant.
There's no way Carol is going to continue with the project that essentially killed her son and everybody she'd known working on it for so long.
And no, there was apparently no other copies of their work available, because Carol and David have an argument about not letting Star Fleet have their project during the movie.
Khan killed everybody else involved with the project at Regula-I (except Carol) and then destroyed all the relevant materials (which he had taken) when he set off the prototype device on the Reliant.
There's no way Carol is going to continue with the project that essentially killed her son and everybody she'd known working on it for so long.
And no, there was apparently no other copies of their work available, because Carol and David have an argument about not letting Star Fleet have their project during the movie.
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For current purposes, if I could re-title this thread, it would be "Cool with Q, but not time crystals?" Those lil time crystals have reignited discussions across the forum about technobabble, sci-fi, fantasy, and what standards we hold to for all those things. So I thought this might be a handy spot to consolidate some of that, rather than rehashing some of it from scratch.
Since the OP was misunderstood by some, I'll summarize the thought behind it: all ST fans have accepted elements of fantasy in our sci-fi, whether we admit it or not. We can't hold these writers to the standards of actual physicists, and gotta remember it's ultimately entertainment.
I don't love the term "time crystals," but for everyone who's clamoring for continuity with TOS, it's a term that actually fits well with the TOS style. We could rename it "chronoserious minerals" or something that sounds more scientific, but the end result would be the same. In the spirit of what's been accepted already in every ST series, let's see where these time crystals lead us.
Since the OP was misunderstood by some, I'll summarize the thought behind it: all ST fans have accepted elements of fantasy in our sci-fi, whether we admit it or not. We can't hold these writers to the standards of actual physicists, and gotta remember it's ultimately entertainment.
I don't love the term "time crystals," but for everyone who's clamoring for continuity with TOS, it's a term that actually fits well with the TOS style. We could rename it "chronoserious minerals" or something that sounds more scientific, but the end result would be the same. In the spirit of what's been accepted already in every ST series, let's see where these time crystals lead us.
Hey on mushrooms
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141111-plants-have-a-hidden-internet
How cool and it's been referred to as a mycelial network
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141111-plants-have-a-hidden-internet
How cool and it's been referred to as a mycelial network
We know that the Prophets and Pah Wraiths can imbue objects with certain powers - including the ability to travel through time. Time Crystals seem in keeping with that - just go with the headcanon than one of the numerous super-powerful races established in Trek are responsible for them.
There's certainly precedent, and some have theorized that it might shed light on other things, like the Klingons who had temporal tech for Janeway in "Endgame." That chrono deflector looked like an assembly of spare parts that production had lying around as filming wrapped for the series, but if it got Janeway back to the past, I guess it did its job.
Seconded.
The concept of the Q Continuum is ridiculous, but the character of Q was excellent during most of his TNG run. Voyager!Q was okay, but nothing special.
The Spore Drive is just goddamn magic mushrooms. Like, the kind that send you on a trip. There's nothing compelling to make up for the bullshit.
That's officially dumber than the Spore Drive.
The Spore Drive is just goddamn magic mushrooms. Like, the kind that send you on a trip. There's nothing compelling to make up for the bullshit.
*Reads Wikipedia Page*
That's officially dumber than the Spore Drive.
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I don't love it either, but considering that there are indeed something in real life called time crystals (albeit not the same type of thing as we have in this show), then I'm not that concerned about it.
VOY had a way of making everyone overfamiliarized, whether it was Q or the Borg. The need to have recurring characters and recurring species was dire as the ship moved in its linear direction through one species of the week after another.
I feel the same way about Q.
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