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Pierre Morel Offers More Dune Details
Pierre Morel, who was hired to take on "Dune" after Peter Berg dropped out, offered some more details about the project in interviews with MTV. Although he’s a fan of director David Lynch, Morel says he wasn’t so much a fan of Lynch’s 1984 adaptation of the novel: "As a David Lynch movie, I loved it," he said of the 1984. "As a ‘Dune’ fan, I was not such a big fan." So instead, Morel says he plans to take his film in a different direction, one which will be "very respectful to the original novel":
“[My movie] is all about the first book. I’m trying to be very respectful to the original novel,” he explained. “But it’s a challenge; there’s a lot of expectation, all the readers will be waiting for me with their shotguns. All the non-readers will also be waiting for us, because it’s such a complex, rich novel and you have to make it accessible to those who have not read the book. So, it’s a tough challenge but I’m very excited about that.”
In another interview with MTV, Morel talked about his direction for the film:
“Like many people, I was not fully satisfied with David Lynch’s movie in 1984,” Morel said. “I do respect David, and I think his interpretation and vision was interesting, but not what we [fans] expected. And I thought I’d give it a chance, try to do this, make it faster and more modern. I think that now, in 2010, we have the technology to achieve much more than David could do twenty-five years ago. I think it will be cool to try something different.”
Morel also talked about some of the things he’ll be changing, including the clothes and the way technology is presented in the future:
“Well, this is supposed to take place 10,000 years from now, so I wonder why people are still dressed like Captain Nemo,” he said with a laugh. “It feels very 19th century to me. I think the [character’s clothes] should be much more modern than that. That’s one thing [I’ll change]; that’s a basic thought.”
“We’ll try to figure out what things may look like 10,000 years from now; it’s all about reconfiguring the entire universe. Everything is going to be very different than [it is] now,” Morel said. “And we know from the book that there’s no more computers, no thinking machines. So a lot of the technology is going to be different. We’ll be working with design concepts, futurists and scientists who will give us a vision of how technology may evolve with certain conditions. That might lead us to another vision of the future – it’s not David Lynch’s vision, it’s not ours either, but in-between.”
"Dune" doesn’t have a date yet, but Morel says he hopes to make it the next he works on and added that they will be starting the writing process soon: "We start the writing process in a couple weeks; there’s so much to sort out,” the filmmaker explained. “[My ‘Dune’] is not a sequel to anything. It’s just a re-interpretation of the original novel."

http://trekmovie.com/2010/01/20/sci...ntern-jurassic-park-iv-thor-tron-legacy-more/
 
Well, this is supposed to take place 10,000 years from now, so I wonder why people are still dressed like Captain Nemo,” he said with a laugh. “It feels very 19th century to me. I think the [character’s clothes] should be much more modern than that.

Hmmm.

I wonder what the futurists will come up with, anyway.
 
Doesn't Dune actually take place 10,000 years after the Butlerian Jihad? I know, semantics. :p

Did Herbert ever state how far in the future the Jihad took place?
 
It's something close to 9,000 years from now from his notes, supposedly. I don't want to get into a flame war here.
 
I'm a little surprised he hasn't referenced the 2000 miniseries at all. Wonder if he's seen it.
 
It's a bit silly to predict what people could be wearing 10000 years in the future. It is so far off just about anything could be plausible. Just go with that you think would be cool, and that's enough reason. :)

I'm cautiously optimistic, but these sound bites makes him sound a bit TOO eager to please the fans.
 
Hmmm...some interesting thoughts from Morel. I like how made the distinction of enjoying Lynch's film as a Lynch film but didn't enjoy it as a Dune fan. That alone tells me he's got a good head on his shoulders. I'm now interested in seeing he's got to offer us.

I'm a little surprised he hasn't referenced the 2000 miniseries at all. Wonder if he's seen it.
I found that interesting as well.

It's a bit silly to predict what people could be wearing 10000 years in the future. It is so far off just about anything could be plausible. Just go with that you think would be cool, and that's enough reason. :)
Hell, we can't predict what clothing looks 10 years into the future, or even 30. Look at Back to the Future, Part II. :lol:
 
Fashion comes and goes (and sometimes comes back again), but I think certain articles of clothing are here to stay because technology made them possible and they'll simply be refined indefinitely to fit whatever trends are in vogue.

For example--seamless spats will be the rage in the year 10,000. Mark my words...
:vulcan:
 
I think that the events of Dune are actually meant to be about 21,000 years or more in the future -- the dates in the book are in the epoch that dates from the creation of the Spacing Guild, and not the birth of Christ. My guess is that Frank Herbert deliberately set the book far in the future to avoid reference points that would be familiar to our era.
 
“Well, this is supposed to take place 10,000 years from now, so I wonder why people are still dressed like Captain Nemo,” he said with a laugh. “It feels very 19th century to me. I think the [character’s clothes] should be much more modern than that. That’s one thing [I’ll change]; that’s a basic thought.”
Ok but see, that was one of the things I LIKED in the Lynch version. The Jules Verne look of everything made it stand out in the realm of sci-fi films. Much preferred that to some of the bizarro (and cheap looking) costumes we saw in the miniseries. Actually my favorite visual interpretation of the Dune universe to date is the artwork from the collectible card game. Used the Lynch version as a basis and improved on it.
 
Doesn't Dune actually take place 10,000 years after the Butlerian Jihad? I know, semantics. :p

Did Herbert ever state how far in the future the Jihad took place?

Dune is a bit tricky with the dates. The glossary at the back of the first book says it takes place in the 10,190s AD, which would make it some nine thousand years in the future.

The prequels drop the AD and use the term AG for After Guild, meaning 10 000 years after the Guild was founded.

Personally, I just go with the year 100 000 AD, as that was what Frank Herbert originally intended.
 
“Well, this is supposed to take place 10,000 years from now, so I wonder why people are still dressed like Captain Nemo,” he said with a laugh. “It feels very 19th century to me. I think the [character’s clothes] should be much more modern than that. That’s one thing [I’ll change]; that’s a basic thought.”
Ok but see, that was one of the things I LIKED in the Lynch version. The Jules Verne look of everything made it stand out in the realm of sci-fi films. Much preferred that to some of the bizarro (and cheap looking) costumes we saw in the miniseries. Actually my favorite visual interpretation of the Dune universe to date is the artwork from the collectible card game. Used the Lynch version as a basis and improved on it.

Dune has a very fuedal society to it - Emperors, Dukes, Barons, heriditary house so Lynch's Baroque styling is very much in keeping with that theme so I never hard a probllem with it.
 
I also loved (most) of the costume and set designs of Lynch's Dune. It was arguably the strongest aspect of the movie.
 
Yeah, the scenery and costumes are one of the reasons I find the David Lynch movie watchable (Garbage bag wearing Saurdakar aside). Speaking of costumes, I wonder if the stilsuits in the new flim will cover their heads? The stillsuits in the 1984 film look cool, but not practical. I have heard that the stillsuits where actually uncomfortably hot for the actors to wear.
 
Another fan of the look of Lynch, but even so, the way this new guy is approaching the project gives me some hope.
 
Yeah, the scenery and costumes are one of the reasons I find the David Lynch movie watchable (Garbage bag wearing Saurdakar aside). Speaking of costumes, I wonder if the stilsuits in the new flim will cover their heads? The stillsuits in the 1984 film look cool, but not practical. I have heard that the stillsuits where actually uncomfortably hot for the actors to wear.

They probably wouldn't of been the most comfortable thing for Fremen to wear either though :)
 
Pierre Morel Offers More Dune Details
Morel also talked about some of the things he’ll be changing, including the clothes and the way technology is presented in the future:
“Well, this is supposed to take place 10,000 years from now, so I wonder why people are still dressed like Captain Nemo,” he said with a laugh. “It feels very 19th century to me. I think the [character’s clothes] should be much more modern than that. That’s one thing [I’ll change]; that’s a basic thought.”
“We’ll try to figure out what things may look like 10,000 years from now; it’s all about reconfiguring the entire universe. Everything is going to be very different than [it is] now,” Morel said. “And we know from the book that there’s no more computers, no thinking machines. So a lot of the technology is going to be different. We’ll be working with design concepts, futurists and scientists who will give us a vision of how technology may evolve with certain conditions. That might lead us to another vision of the future – it’s not David Lynch’s vision, it’s not ours either, but in-between.”
http://trekmovie.com/2010/01/20/sci...ntern-jurassic-park-iv-thor-tron-legacy-more/

Yeah, you see, there's thing called the Butlerian Jihad in the past of those 10,000 years, and in it computers are destroyed - and seeing as all our modern clothes making comes from our computerized industry and design, all the "modern looking" stuff went the way of the dinosaur. They thus went back to early 20th century stuff at the latest.
 
I find the Lynch movie was somewhat hit and miss with the costumes. The Atreides uniforms were actually quite nice. But the stillsuits made no sense. Seriously, black rubber in the desert? And why was there nothing for the head? And the less said about the Sardaukar uniforms the better.

The mini got the stillsuits perfect, but the Sardaukar uniforms were still ass.

Hopefully this movie gives the Sardaukar something decent to wear.
 
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