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Why...yes they...do.
How many androids does this show have?
Pretty sure just the one. The better question would be how many Geordi rip offs does this show have?
In the event of a water landing, they are designed to function as a flotation device.
Do they allow waterbeds on a starship?
Anyone notice how much more "trek" the lighting is?
None so far, because we don't exactly know what she/it is supposed to be. That IGN reporter called her “a synthetic human-like female character”, but I guess we'll have to wait till we learn more on the show.
Captain Georgiou had the same computer and tapes.
What a massive violation of TOS canon those TOS episodes are.
Yeah, people who scream about canon violations often do not do the homework to see if it really is. And no where does it say in Canon no android race or robotic race is a member of the federation. We know some cybernetic races are. Data was a set type of android, what made him stand out was for a while he seemed one of a kind, he was the product one one persons privet work and was not a culture.
To be exact, VOY "Prototype" makes the claim that Data was the only sentient artificial lifeform in the Federation society at the time B'Elanna Torres last checked. I'm not aware of any episode or movie mentioning he would have been first in anything much (although he was the second working Soongian positronic model, and the first such to enter Starfleet and supposedly also the Federation society).
There might be entire armies of androids out there even at that time, and never mind preceding eras. It's just that during "Prototype", those can't be sentient, or then they must be deemed to lie outside the society somehow. But how could that latter be, when even Data being in Starfleet doesn't exclude him from the society?
Android and sentient artificial lifeform are separate things conceptually. TOS had several examples of things that were both at the same time, and one episode ("I, Mudd") that had both such a combination (named Norman) and plenty of the former who weren't the latter (the endless brainless twins). None ever entered the Federation society (although Dr Korby tried to). But that's TOS, and doesn't affect other eras one way or another.
At most we could say that androids that surprise our TOS heroes must be of types not previously seen in the Federation. But this doesn't work too well, as the heroes display equal surprise when they meet of Ruk and Norman.
In "Return to Tomorrow", Dr Mulhall seems to suggest she (or at least the Federation/Starfleet/NCC-1701 crew she knows well) could build androids (not sentient lifeforms but empty shells) for Sargon's people, rather than letting the aliens do it. Any robotic bodies in DSC could be taken as the thing that made her so confident.
Timo Saloniemi
There might be entire armies of androids out there even at that time, and never mind preceding eras. It's just that during "Prototype", those can't be sentient, or then they must be deemed to lie outside the society somehow. But how could that latter be, when even Data being in Starfleet doesn't exclude him from the society?
Android and sentient artificial lifeform are separate things conceptually. TOS had several examples of things that were both at the same time, and one episode ("I, Mudd") that had both such a combination (named Norman) and plenty of the former who weren't the latter (the endless brainless twins). None ever entered the Federation society (although Dr Korby tried to). But that's TOS, and doesn't affect other eras one way or another.
At most we could say that androids that surprise our TOS heroes must be of types not previously seen in the Federation. But this doesn't work too well, as the heroes display equal surprise when they meet of Ruk and Norman.
In "Return to Tomorrow", Dr Mulhall seems to suggest she (or at least the Federation/Starfleet/NCC-1701 crew she knows well) could build androids (not sentient lifeforms but empty shells) for Sargon's people, rather than letting the aliens do it. Any robotic bodies in DSC could be taken as the thing that made her so confident.
Timo Saloniemi
Or, she was wrong.
I sort of suspect the DSC character will not be defined as a first of any sort, so we can push the invention of well-working Mechanical Men (with or without Biological Women inside) back to any arbitrary point. Perhaps the people who built Khan started out by building perfectly good tin men but found that flesh was cheaper?
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
It could have a biological brain. I do want to know more
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