Constitution class appearance in DS9 fleet
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Ex Astris has a great article on the DS9 Kitbashes:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ds9tm.htm
Here's another one on the Wolf 359 ships:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359-other.htm
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ds9tm.htm
Here's another one on the Wolf 359 ships:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359-other.htm
That's my memory of it. It's barely a few frames and the ship passes from right to left through the centre of the screen, but the ships outline is slightly out of focus and it's against a very busy background of other ships which draw the eye away. I've just been scanning through the screen caps on Trek Core but I don't think it was at the beginning or end of an episode but rather partway through, so I could be there all day!
*pause*
What?
"And I love how we use the name 'Connie' to describe the Constitution class. It makes it sound so..."cute".
"
My first girlfriends' names were Connie. :thumbsup:
I don't remember a Constitution Class ship on DS9.
"My first girlfriends' names were Connie. :thumbsup:
I don't remember a Constitution Class ship on DS9.
Holytomato said:
I don't remember a Constitution Class ship on DS9.
That's because there was never a Connie on DS9, or an Ambassador as another poster claimed - though sometimes the Excelsior CGI model looks a bit squished and looks a bit like an Ambassador.
All you see in the big sequences are the CGI models they had - the Galaxy, Nebula, Excelsior, Miranda, Akira, Steamrunner, Sabre (barely ever seen) and Defiant.
JoeZhang said:
Indeed, the fact that the ships had names like USS Rest in peace, USS Bullseye, USS Target, USS Deathtrap and USS Meaningless death was a bit of a give away.
Y'know, there was a DS9 forum thread a while ago where people were complaining about the recycled footage used in the DS9 finale. One was the shot of the Mirandas gettin' blowed up real good. Someone offered the excuse/explanation that the scenes look similar because Starfleet ships use standard tatical maneuvering patterns.
I can just imagine how at the Academy they teach such standard tatical maneuvers like the Blown-To-Bits Pattern Delta or the Spinning-Wildly-When-Half-Of-Saucer-Gets-Blown-Away Pattern Beta.
The Romulans seem to specialize in the Going-Belly-Up maneuvers.
Robert
If that's Sacrifice of Angels then it's a Steamrunner. You can see the detached deflector about two frames into it's appearance. There's another scene at the end of the Battle of Chintoka where one does a Constitution impression.
USS KG5 said:
Holytomato said:
I don't remember a Constitution Class ship on DS9.
That's because there was never a Connie on DS9, or an Ambassador as another poster claimed - though sometimes the Excelsior CGI model looks a bit squished and looks a bit like an Ambassador.
With the exception of the Yamaguchi in Emissary.
If they still had a "Connie" by 24C, during the Dominion War, if nothing else, they could have thrown it at the enemy a la Doomsday Machine... and of course, I'm talking about Holytomato's old girlfriend.
No, the pilot episode was the only time we ever saw an Ambassador in the entire run of DS9. And that was during the Wolf 359 flashbacks.
USS KG5 said:
Holytomato said:
I don't remember a Constitution Class ship on DS9.
That's because there was never a Connie on DS9, or an Ambassador as another poster claimed - though sometimes the Excelsior CGI model looks a bit squished and looks a bit like an Ambassador.
All you see in the big sequences are the CGI models they had - the Galaxy, Nebula, Excelsior, Miranda, Akira, Steamrunner, Sabre (barely ever seen) and Defiant.
While its true that they didn't have a constitution class or Ambassador class ship in later seasons of DS9 (or all seasons for the constitution), they did in fact use an Ambassador class ship in the opening battle of Wolf 359. After the Borg have locked on to the Saratoga (the ship Sisko is serving on), two ships fly towards the Borg cube firing weapons. One is a Nebula class ship and one is an Ambassador class ship. We get both front, side, and rear views of those two ships. And one is an Ambassador class.
I like the constitution class, it's my favourite design ever!! Go Connie!!!
It's the colouring of the deflector dish. It's pure blue rather having a spinkling of darker components within it, similar to the Constitution.
Similarly, if you see the ship tilted slightly forward then it looks like the deflector array is actually joined to the saucer section. In that angle the nacelles also look as if they stick out from the array and because they're thinner than most 'modern' vessels they resemble more closely a Constitution.
All this is from a distance, of course and when it's going quite fast. Any closer inspection makes it clear that it isn't a Constitution.
It's not the best example, but you can see some of those points in this screencap - http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/6x06/sacraficeofangels025.jpg I've seen at least 5 posters identify that ship as Constitution before now
Old girlfriends. 
I just watched my DS9 Emissary dvd. There is an Ambassador! :thumbsup:
I just watched my DS9 Emissary dvd. There is an Ambassador! :thumbsup:
As someone said above, Connie parts were used for kitbashes that were meant for the Dominion War. As you can see here:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ds9tm/constitution_variant_side.jpg
A model was actually made, placing the nacells underneath the saucer in a Miranda-type of variant. However, this never made it on-screen.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ds9tm/constitution_variant_side.jpg
A model was actually made, placing the nacells underneath the saucer in a Miranda-type of variant. However, this never made it on-screen.
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